My own addiction to YT made me a) pay for Youtube Premium and b) invest in Alphabet stock a few years ago.
Now I find myself wishing for a global date filter (”only show videos posted before a year ago”).
I get the feeling that this issue has exploded during the past few months.
Now I find myself wishing for a global date filter (”only show videos posted before a year ago”).
I get the feeling that this issue has exploded during the past few months.
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What's the nature of these videos? I don't really see anything AI at all on my feed. That said, most of the videos I watch are of people talking long form who I've been following since before the AI craze.
By stronglikedan 2025-09-3015:46 A lot of these are just a voice over some random graphics that may or may no relate to the content being discussed. Most of the content is pilfered from real creators.
One example: supposed factual documentary videos of historic events.
But really, I’ve see this across so many genres lately.
I don’t know if Alphabet wants to solve this, though.
By ddddang 2025-09-3015:36 [dead]
In addition to the video types that mpicker0 and lysace mentioned, here's yet another:
Fake, and dishonest, Christian Country Music.
I learned of this through Fil Henley, who just pointed out Ella Scott (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0wtyIljNns) which is an AI account with AI-generated songs and thumbnails being produced at an unfeasibly high rate for an actual human. There are astroturfing channels under other names that purport, with more AI fakery, to show themselves alongside Ella Scott. There's an Ella Scott psychology channel tapping into the self-help market. There's an Ella Scott Soulnotes channel. There are not-declared-AI linked accounts on other platforms. Until this all got high exposure, there was an active PayPal donation setup for a non-existent Ella Scott charity.
This isn't even the first firehose account of AI-generated CCM that M. Henley has covered. There has been the improbably double-barrelled James Hilton-Cowboy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HORuCSsDLI) for example.
And there is an audience of Christians being taken in by these thinking that they are real performers.
By general1465 2025-09-3017:32 Some AI country music tapes are actually pretty funny - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhRkkNr-6V4
By mock-possum 2025-09-3016:272 reply The irony of believers in the supernatural being too easily fooled by ai is entertaining and unsurprising - part of being Christian is being open to ‘fake and dishonest’
And besides, if they like the music, what’s the harm?
By JdeBP 2025-09-3016:49 It's all too easy to be unsympathetic. But the unsympathetic should remember the soliciting of donations to the non-existent charity for supposedly aiding children; and then bear in mind that there are going to be AI-wielding con-artists in other fields, closer to home, with other hooks for grabbing the marks, too.
Ironically, the religious have rules about doing unto others: be sympathetic to the people conned into giving their money away, in the hopes that they'll be sympathetic to you when you're conned in your turn.
Travel videos, for one. I've had to wade through a bunch of "Top 10 must-see places in $CITY" that are obviously thrown together listicles, narrated by an AI voice, with no value whatsoever.
Makes me wish they'd start showing thumbs-down counts on videos again, maybe that would have some impact on the problem.
This is the world that software developers are building. At what point do they become accountable for the resulting mess?
I don't think people should be held liable for the misuse of tools they create, unless the tools were created for that purpose.
By bcrl 2025-09-3016:33 That's not something I can agree with.
Take image generation trained on a bunch of copyrighted photographs and artwork. What is the intent behind creating such a tool?
Yes, there is a stage where the software developer is building the software to do this purely operating on a "this is a cool hack" kind of mentality, but the point at which you make it available to other people, especially for payment, is when the liability becomes real.
Having worked on open source software for most of my life, I have always had to be aware of the issues surrounding copyright. That other software developers will write software and use copyright to proect it while ignoring the copyrights of others is deeply concerning. Copyright of software is no more or less important than copyrights applied to images and artwork.
Engineers are liable for their mistakes. At some point the same mechanisms may well need to be applied to software.
By Mountain_Skies 2025-09-3016:242 reply Software developers rarely have the power to say no to the people who sign their paychecks. If you do, you're speaking from a position of privilege that most don't share. Count yourself lucky rather than spewing hate on those whose lives are not as privileged as yours. Not everyone can go long periods of time without income, especially in the current labor market and doubly so if it is known that they're willing to say no to their employer.
By rhetocj23 2025-09-3017:10 Yeah I get that. But you gotta feel filthy. But I guess overtime those people become so desensitised to it they just dont feel it.
By bcrl 2025-10-010:16 You have made a huge assumption that I have a steady income. I do not. I am currently in the middle of a fight with pole owners trying to get my company to survive having been denied timely access to poles for fully engineered permits. Loss over the last 7 years from delayed and denied access is in the millions. I could have settled things for hundreds of thousands, but there's no way to do that. I had to stop paying myself a paltry $25/hour to live off of last year when a creditor started squeezing as hard as possible.
Building FTTP networks is not expensive. It's the bullshit surrounding obtaining permission to install the fibre that is expensive.
That said, all software developers have a choice as to what they work on by the employer and teams that they sign up with. Just because you're employed to do something does not mean that you're obligated to go ahead with breaking the law.
Real engineers are required to take ethics courses in university, and they cannot willfully ignore actions that are unethical without risking the loss of their license. I think that software developers need ethical training more than ever given the direction of the industry.
By xhkkffbf 2025-09-3016:03 No value whatsoever? I find the travel ones to be slightly/ useful as a basic neutral introduction. I will often choose an obvious AI version over some opinionated person who is trying to build a brand. (Sorry humans.)
That being said, some of the random still frames that make up these videos are pretty stupid and valueless.
By showmexyz 2025-09-3016:12 Not op but, whenever I search for some term that maybe have more watchtime,you will see AI generated content. For example try searching for "li ion battery".
By general1465 2025-09-3017:28 AI narrated space opera - HFY. There are like 10 original stories, and everything else is some regurgitated version of those.
My feed is filled with AI slop videos. They are usually AI generated thumbnails, AI generated voice-overs over either AI generated images animating or random clips of videos stolen from actual creators. Last month, I was getting 5-6 videos every refresh containing some fake futuristic AI-generated cars. Nowadays, I am getting the same with AI-generated tech products.
Typically, all these videos have under 1000 views. I am at a point where I might even write a user script to hide every video under 1000 views.
By JdeBP 2025-09-3018:21 If you want to banjanx the algorithm, instead, watch a few Kyoto Tachibana Senior High School Band videos (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIouDxRfTb8) or Shimane Prefectural Izumo Commercial High School Band videos (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLzr3cuFtk).
There appears to be an enormous algorithmic weight to those. Just a few such videos completely swamped my recommendations with Japanese marching bands a couple of years ago. Simply finding those two to copy their URLs into this post has immediately put two further band videos into my recommendations.
This doesn't surprise me. Websites and blogs and search results are polluted with trash. On the plus side, it has ruined any "explore" type watching of anything for me, which is making me spend less time on these platforms.
Looking for advice? One approach that might be interesting to try is to subscribe to channels and restrict yourself to your subscriptions. You could even bookmark the subscriptions tab in Youtube so that you don't land on the main page with recommendations.
By huevosabio 2025-09-3016:45 Oh, I like the idea of sticking to subscribed channels. It's the equivalent of only using the Following tab on Twitter.
It's funny how invariably the algorithmic feed ends up being overused and pushes people to self filtered content. Facebook is the earliest example I remember of this.
By Jeremy1026 2025-09-3015:372 reply Same. I don't stray from my core Youtube. I don't even subscribe to channels, but my algorithm is still only offering me videos from creators that I've been watching for years and trust. When one of them jumps the shark, looking at you Veritasium and Mark Rober, I just stop clicking their videos and eventually they stop showing up in my list.
By stuaxo 2025-09-3017:52 Did that happen when Verasitum became owned by venture capital?
Curious which video caused you to dump vertasium? Other than click-bait titles and thumbnails, the production and information presented seems first class.
By Jeremy1026 2025-09-3015:452 reply When he stopped presenting them live, and switched to animation with voice over. The change was likely made to be able to pump them out faster, and there was a definite drop in quality that came along with the change.
That’s likely due to the fact that Veritasium has PE investment now.
https://www.electrify.video/post/electrify-completes-majorit...
By stuaxo 2025-09-3018:48 Is there anything PE can't make worse ?
The animations seem appropriate for teaching the content and actually seem like more effort than just talking into a camera.
But I agree there has been a drop in quality with the growth of his team.
By Jeremy1026 2025-10-0114:58 The animations replaced practical demonstrations. They did allow the channel to explore more topics, things that couldn't be done practically, but I think overall it was a net-loss.
How do you find those channels?
Up until recently the YT recommender algorithms did a quite good job at that for me. Now they serve up crap.
By stronglikedan 2025-09-3015:451 reply My bar for new channels is that they must have a person presenting the content, who appears on camera for enough time to convince myself they're not fake.
Unfortunately, that rules out the likes of Minute Physics, ScienceClic English, and the famous for being camera-averse Lockpicking Lawyer. (-:
By JdeBP 2025-09-3017:32 The question is whether a disembodied pair of hands, that could be those of a body double, is enough to satisfy stronglikedan.
The good news is that Big Clive, 3Blue1Brown, and even Jago Hazzard have all appeared on camera, albeit not always on their own channels. (-:
By TheCleric 2025-09-3015:43 I have a pre-existing list based on my interests.
Sometimes those creators will mention other channels or I will hear about a channel from someone else and I’ll check them out.
