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  • By nickt 2025-11-2214:262 reply

    I grew up in South Hylton where the Cretehawser was basically dumped near Claxheugh Rock (good luck pronouncing that if you’re not a Mackem!) Proper fun 70’s and 80’s adventure to be had getting on board at low tide. Can’t imagine the authorities being happy with kids doing this today!

    It had lots of stories associated with it and it was a strange thing to see just sitting there in a shipbuilding town. Happy to see it get a mention on the site [1] and there’s an article with better photos here [2].

    [1] https://thecretefleet.com/wwi-uk

    [2] https://fabulousnorth.com/cretehawser-wreck/

  • By pksebben 2025-11-2220:353 reply

    On the about page

    > I tried to correct the nonsense written on the appalling Wikipedia page 'Concrete Ship', only to find myself 'Indefinitely Blocked' from updating Wikipedia. Their grounds were that by citing referenceable facts from this website, I was 'self-promoting' apparently. Self promoting history ? History that has been meticulously researched and is completely free to access ? I then had the audacity to argue with one of the tinpot dictators that run Wikipedia such that I was banned from 'Talk' as well. Closed minds, fake history. This is only important because when you research anything, Wikipedia comes out top. The text then gets repeated ad nauseam. That's the problem...the nonsense on Wikipedia is extrapolated and propagated many times over. For everyone that reads this, a hundred will read Wikipedia and attach what is written to their photo or video. This fact alone means that there is a responsibility on Wikipedia - one that they take extremely lightly - to ensure that statements have adequate and reputable citations. Wikipedia is not a source, Wikipedia is never a source

    Pretty strong sentiments - anyone else have this sort of experience? Bit of a bunker buster if the assertions within hold weight...

    edit: found the talk page referenced [0]. It's popcorn-worthy at least.

    0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Concrete_ship#Nonsense_hi...

    • By iammattmurphy 2025-11-2221:56

      I’m immediately reminded of John Siracusa’s rant about Wikipedia on his old Hypercritical podcast. This is a lengthy rebuttal from (presumably) a Wikipedia lover that includes a link and timestamp to the original podcast segment [0]

      I agree, verifiability makes sense, and truth can’t really be claimed without verification, and so it’s a confusing argument to say: truth should be above verifiability; but I must admit: I find it very strange that some people have information about them on their Wikipedia pages that they’re not able to correct despite _being the person_ because one can only cite a source.

      The problem of circular citations exists as well, where an article is cited which itself only cites another article, and it might loop back on itself.

      0 - https://www.thewikipedian.net/p/verifiability-truth-john-sir...

    • By TZubiri 2025-11-2221:37

      Looks like a standard newcomer to wikipedia making lots of wikipedia mistakes, learning what a source is, etc...

      The dude wanted to cite himself, cmon

    • By NedF 2025-11-235:55

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  • By mrgriscom 2025-11-229:561 reply

    There's a concrete ship wrecked just offshore of Cape May Point in NJ. It has been deteriorating for many years and soon nothing will remain above the waterline.

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