Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

2025-11-2021:586673www.abc.net.au

Virgin Australia and Qantas will ban the use of portable power banks from next month following a string of international incidents.


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  • By aetherspawn 2025-11-213:393 reply

    The issue is that these power banks are often cheapo corporate gifts or bought out of vending machines, catering to the cheapest possible price and not certified to anything.

    In this case they have crappy BMS that doesn’t have thermal sensors or even make sure the cells are balanced during charging, and no mechanical integrity so the cell can just get crushed and explode.

    The solution is to require all consumer electronics with batteries to be certified (if carried on a plane or in the post), and part of that certification process needs to be mechanical; including crushing with normal levels of in-transit forces, and electrical testing; including charging the device at a high temperature.

    • By eternityforest 2025-11-218:141 reply

      Or better yet, create a new set of replaceable battery standards with multiple chemistry options, and certify the batteries.

      Users should be able to choose LiFePo4/LTO/Sodium for peace of mind and reliability if they don't need normal lipo levels of capacity.

      • By aetherspawn 2025-11-219:181 reply

        It’s not that simple… the voltages are all different, and each chemistry has different charge and discharge rates, so this just makes the end product insanely complicated and expensive.

        • By eternityforest 2025-11-2117:17

          We've already got programmable charging chips that can adapt to different chemistries, and they're already pretty cheap, and USB-C has proven that fancy voltage negotiation protocols can be done cheaply.

    • By ottah 2025-11-2116:131 reply

      I swear the majority of UL and CE marked electronics on amazon are fraudulent. Honestly, I don't think certification is going to work, at least not with out a long term economic policy to onshore manufacture. There's just no practical system for verifying certification when the origin is obfuscated for the majority of our good, and produced outside of our regulatory system. We also just don't make these things in sufficient quantity, or economically enough to supplant the import market.

      • By aetherspawn 2025-11-220:15

        I think the mistake here is not printing the registration number on the products themselves so that you can type it into the portal or whatever and look up what it’s supposed to look like. Like photo ID.

    • By burnt-resistor 2025-11-216:48

      Yep. UL & CE certification to standard X. The lack of retail marketplace and manufacturing regulation enforcement are the problems that are fixable similar to lack of safety standards in automobiles in the US prior to 1966. Safety regs are written in blood and so people can winge and whine all they want about headaches, cost, red tape, and paperwork but too bad.

  • By polishdude20 2025-11-210:563 reply

    I would use a battery pack less if the outlets on the planes actually worked! On my last 4 flights I've had outlets completely disabled.

    • By zamadatix 2025-11-212:59

      Or make the seatback USB solution a bit more modular and update it every 5 years. Nobody is bringing a toaster on board, they just need something more than a 5 Watt USB A port for their devices.

    • By jtokoph 2025-11-211:412 reply

      And when they do work, my North American two prong plug falls right out half of the time.

      • By trollbridge 2025-11-213:381 reply

        A trick (on U.S. airlines) is to plug in an overseas adapter (British style plugs seem to work pretty well for this purpose), since those prongs see far less use and still grip well.

        • By georgefrowny 2025-11-216:494 reply

          British plugs are just better anyway. The rectangular pins have far better contacts mechanically and electrically and they're arranged in a triangle so the plug can't wobble its way out.

          It's really a very good design.

      • By dylan604 2025-11-213:12

        That just sounds like another way of not working. Even if there is power, if the socket doesn’t hold the prongs, it’s not going to power your device.

    • By jballer 2025-11-213:131 reply

      You have to look up the maximum wattage for the given cabin configuration. I’ve found 30W to be about as high as I can go without it cutting out. Use a phone charger for your laptop.

      This is where it’s helpful to have a multi-port charger where they’re not all high-draw.

      IMO more important to go with something flat or light that won’t fall out under its own weight.

      • By wlesieutre 2025-11-214:062 reply

        Assuming this is USB-C ports, they're supposed to negotiate a supported power limit with the device you plug in. If the port is saying "I can deliver 60W" and then cutting out if you draw more than 30, there's something wrong with their chargers.

        • By rahimnathwani 2025-11-215:01

          I'm assuming he's talking about the mains socket.

        • By btown 2025-11-214:10

          There is something wrong with their chargers.

  • By jerlam 2025-11-210:141 reply

    China bans non-certified power banks on their domestic flights, even if they're not in use. And the certification authority is China-specific, they don't care about UL or any others.

    https://www.travelofchina.com/china-power-bank-ban-2025-xiao...

    • By kenny11 2025-11-221:02

      I had this happen at the Shenzhen airport a few weeks ago. They confiscated my Apple MagSafe battery because it didn't have the CCC mark. From the looks of it, they were confiscating a lot of them.

      It was a missed opportunity for someone to not have opened an approved power bank store just past security.

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