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  • By s0rce 2026-02-0117:411 reply

    I don't really understand how coffee, lacking heavy metals, can effectively give contrast in the electron microscope. I can't access the paper but the available parts didn't seem to explain how this works.

    • By seesawtron 2026-02-0221:431 reply

      Even without any heavy metal staining, you would end up seeing some structures. This approach allows looking at unstained / native tissue.

      • By s0rce 2026-02-0321:05

        What is the coffee doing?

  • By mjd 2026-02-0114:551 reply

    I'm puzzled by this. Why hasn't there been, over the last fifty years, a huge amount of research into EM staining techniques and which materials were best under which circumstances? Edison supposedly tried 3000 different materials for light bulb filaments before settling on charred cotton thread. Why hasn't something similar been done in this area?

    Or perhaps it _has_ been done and that's why nearly everyone uses uranyl acetate? And perhaps coffee was tried decades ago and found to be generally inferior?

    • By BigTTYGothGF 2026-02-0115:491 reply

      Of course it's been done, and there are lots of different stains available: https://www.agarscientific.com/general-consumables/chemicals...

      • By buildbot 2026-02-0115:541 reply

        Wow you know it’s a fun party when the first result needs to specify it’s _not_ radioactive

        Oh I see - Uranyl Acetate is radioactive and this replaces it. Fun!

        This seems like a friendly chemical too - “ The chemical properties of Osmium Tetroxide are such that use and handling of the chemical is often considered daunting. Although its volatility and toxicity certainly makes it a dangerous chemical, but when following the proper procedure and taking the necessary precautions, Osmium Tetroxide can be used to its full potential with limited risk to the user.

        This is more toxic than glutaraldehyde and has a higher vapour pressure. Particular care must be taken to avoid breathing the vapour or allowing it to affect the eyes. ”

        • By s0rce 2026-02-0117:391 reply

          Uranyl acetate for staining is typically depleted and unless you have regulatory issues I don't think the radiation is a big concern, especially when you compare to the very serious toxicity of OsO4 (vapors can react with your eyes and blind you).

          • By buildbot 2026-02-0119:19

            Interesting and makes sense! I know nothing but what I read from the stain description haha. OsO4 seems incredibly nasty. So do a few other of the stains!

  • By jacquesm 2026-02-0111:392 reply

    You just know how they found out about this...

    > "I got the idea of using espresso as a staining agent from the circular dried stains in used coffee cups,"

    Suuure...

    • By bell-cot 2026-02-0111:591 reply

      Quoting more:

      > "I got the idea of using espresso as a staining agent from the circular dried stains in used coffee cups," says Claudia Mayrhofer, who is responsible for ultramicrotomy at the institute. During preparation, she cuts tissue samples into wafer-thin slices and fixes them onto sample holders. Staining is the last step before examination under the electron microscope.

      I'm curious about the grad student who is the second author on the research paper. Is he the one tasked with the current-SOP staining with (radioactive and poisonous) uranyl acetate? Was it his overworked-and-drowsy "oopsie" which lead to the discovery?

      • By fc417fc802 2026-02-0117:471 reply

        Amusing, but no (at least I sincerely hope). Food and wet samples are never in the same vicinity as a matter of OSHA (plus just a general desire not to get yourself or others killed). Violating that would typically be a great way to speedrun getting fired.

        Radioactive substances go beyond that, generally being handled in their own dedicated area that no one else is permitted to enter for any reason. The level of paranoia is actually fairly impressive (but obviously necessary).

    • By mikkupikku 2026-02-0114:00

      You figure they accidentally spilled some coffee and just went with it? That's my guess.

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