You are under no obligation to continue this conversation of course.

> Unless the entire end to end operation is wrapped inside a giant transaction, no system in the world can give you the confirmation.

But how do people use, say, redis, without an external "checkpoint" system, how do you do, say, an INCR operation, and know if it succeeded or not?

Or are most uses of redis actually dangerous and subject to these error conditions, perhaps it's tolerable to risk that error for most redis use cases, but wasn't for the system under discussion? Most developers using redis definitely aren't using external "checkpointing" systems, or considering if they should be or not -- should they be?

But of course you've convinced me that the system under discussion would have been better off using an rdbms, something I never doubted.

I'm curious the nature of the US laws that would make the web front end illegal (or subject to civil penalties?) but not the tracker?

Googling, there's been at least one tracker shut down by US law enforcement, EliteTorrents [2005] https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-may-26-fi-torre...

I think there have probably been more. There are definitely more that had civil suits with MPAA etc suing for damages.

It may be somewhat harder to make the case in the US, but a tracker where a great majority of what's listed is copyrighted, I'm pretty sure it can be shut down in the US.

Ah, the system is not capable of giving you a confirmation that your update succeeded, you don't really have a way to know without external "checkpoint" system?

Anyway, okay, I get that I don't get it, and I get that it does sound terrible, agreed!