You know what, let it go through!

If the European people are too stupid to stop it and simply keep on voting for the parties who support this sort of law, then so be it.

The criminals will move on to other means of communication, the privacy minded folks will move to sideloaded Signal-like apps and take their friends and families with them if possible and the rest will just have to learn to live under the new EU-Stasi regime and watch their privacy being stripped a little more day by day.

Apple did not bend the knee in the UK, it forced the hand of the UK to reveal it's goals. Obviously we will see, I don't have much hope either. As for Signal, I hope they pull out as it will get media coverage somewhat on this issue.

No EU means that this law would have to passed in 27 different countries whihc would make it much harder to put this many people under surveillance.

So, in this particular case no EU would be a clear benefit because it would give us time to see the effect on this law on the neighboring countries first, just like we saw with the UK and the OSA.

I am becoming more anti-EU by the day and this is just one more nail in the coffin.

Whatever happens, at least Signal will not be complicit in this shit show. Will WhatsApp and IMessage bend the knee? I guess we will see.

Exactly my point. This sort of non-sense used to be part of the ideas expressed by people on the fringes of the political class not from center-right/center left parties.