Indefinite Backpack Travel

2025-10-0217:12449411jeremymaluf.com

Updated September 2025 In 2015 I got rid of everything I owned that didn’t fit in a laptop backpack, and I’ve been living at this level of minimalism since. The idea is to only own what I need, which…

Updated September 2025

In 2015 I got rid of everything I owned that didn’t fit in a laptop backpack, and I’ve been living at this level of minimalism since. The idea is to only own what I need, which allows me to focus more, spend less, travel spontaneously and simplify my life.

I update this post yearly, with past versions available on the Internet Archive: 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017. Some of the links on this page are affiliate links. For more content on this lifestyle, I’ve started sharing videos on Instagram.

10 years in and somehow millions of people have read this page! Thank you for stopping by! :)

  • Aer Slim Pack. In 2020 I made a custom 10L bag, but it wasn’t very durable so for the moment I’m back to tech bags (MYOG bag v2 coming soon). At 9L this bag has the perfect storage capacity for all my stuff minus hiking gear, and falls well within the ‘personal item’ size requirements of even the most strict budget airline. I permanently keep an Airtag inside and attached some Nite Ize S-biners to the zipper pulls to lock the bag from casual theft.
    • Rains Pencil Case. The closest thing I’ve found to the perfect dopp kit. I use it for toiletries and for storing first aid and random small things. It’s the perfect capacity for the “travel size” version of everything. Seems to be permanently out of stock now as Rains shifted their product lineup to lower-quality versions that more prominently display their logo.
    • Macbook Air M2 13″. Caved and replaced my 12″ Macbook with the closest Apple Silicon model. I miss the generation of ultralight laptops, but these new replacements are incredibly powerful. Crossing my fingers one day we’ll get the M series chip in a smaller form factor.
    • iPhone 15 Pro. 256GB. Solid phone with an amazing camera. Sans case as AppleCare is cheap. I’ve used Verizon for the past 12 years but now I’m experimenting keeping a secondary T-Mobile eSIM for better connection in cities (and cheaper travel plans). I also keep a ‘modular’ iPhone 7 in my backpack for when I need a backup.
    • Apple Watch S7. I only use my watch for tracking workout and health data. I lose my watch frequently so I rarely buy the current generation. I wear it with a silicone solo loop band, of which I was surprised no cheap knockoffs exist – in my opinion it’s the perfect watchband.
    • Airpods Pro 2. With a USB-C case. I’m back to AirPods Pro after several years with AirPods 3. I’m not a fan of how silicone headphones isolate you from the world, even with transparency mode, but you just can’t beat the noise cancellation for travel and crowded places.
    • Samsung USB-C thumb drive. Two 256gb flash drives, one in my pocket and one in my bag. After years of data corruption issues with my travel SSDs I’m back to storing everything in the cloud, with a few files backed up locally to these drives.
    • Apple USB-C Cable. 1-meter, woven C-to-C cable. For charging my iPhone, Macbook, iPad and battery – everything except my watch.
    • Apple Watch Fast Charger. 1 meter. I’m back to using Apple’s cables after years of using compact chargers since only Apple’s can charge at max speed (it’s actually innovative, they moved the tech to the USB-C side of the cable to dissipate heat).
    • Anker PowerCore Battery. Minimalist, matte black, lightweight, and small enough to fit in my pocket. At 20,000mAh it carries one full Macbook charge and can charge all my stuff at 30W, as fast as a wall outlet. No longer sold.
    • American Apparel 50/50 Shirts. Six when I’m on the move, twice that if I’m staying somewhere for a while. I prefer 50/50 cotton/poly over triblends for durability, and I’m not a fan of merino due to durability and price – frequent outdoor adventures mean I rip my shirts often.

      I pack my shirts by rolling them around my socks and underwear into compact ‘day rolls’, which prevents wrinkling, eliminates decision-making involved with getting dressed, and makes packing as simple as tossing the rolls into my bag.

    • Darn Tough Socks. Six pairs. Been wearing this brand for the past 15 years. Darn Tough merino socks are so indestructible that if they rip the manufacturer will ship you a new pair. I’ve walked over 5,000 miles with each pair I own and they still look new.
    • Uniqlo Airism Boxer Briefs. Six pairs. Consistently regarded by travelers as the best travel boxers for good reason. Get the regular ones, not low-rise or seamless, and definitely not the cotton ones. Usually only available in-store.
    • Western Rise Pants. Though I sometimes miss the ‘toughness’ of Levi’s jeans, after a few years of wearing WR’s travel pants I’ve fully converted. Their AT pants use a heavy material that feels comfortable yet is still super durable and holding up well after several years.

      Worn with a minimalist Grip6 gunmetal belt, which I’ve been loving more and more each year. I don’t know why this belt style isn’t more popular.

    • Western Rise Shorts. I’ve never been the type of person that wears shorts, but after realizing that my legs are ten shades lighter than my arms I’ve decided to make the lifestyle change. Mostly worn for working out, running, and while doing laundry.
    • Everlane Swim Trunks. Like shorts, I’ve never had swim trunks on this list. Previously they were a short-lived item, bought only for summer pool hangs and gone by my next flight. But lately I’ve been getting into swimming so they’re now a permanent addition.
    • Nike Pegasus Trail 5 Running Shoes. I no longer wear the Gore-Tex version of these shoes as those get uncomfortable in hot weather. Nike makes the best and most durable running shoes out of every brand I’ve tried, but I’m tired of their yearly release shtick that discontinues every design after a few months, so apologies in advance if you can’t find it. I attached some S-biners to the laces for latching my shoes to my belt when walking barefoot on the beach.
    • Baseball Cap. Never owned a hat for the first 28 years of my life. Now I wear one every day. More of an aesthetic choice than practical. This minimalist $4 cap is perfect.
    • Montbell Plasma 1000. The Japanese version which has pockets. Objectively the world’s best down jacket by weight-to-warmth ratio; literally weighs less than my phone and can fit in my pocket. It’s unreal. When layered I can feel comfortable in any weather.
    • Everlane Filled Canvas Jacket. For years I thought heavy jackets can’t coexist with my lifestyle, but after experimenting with outfits throughout 2024, I realized I was wrong. While canvas jackets do weigh a lot, it’s worn weight not packed weight. They’re also extremely durable and can be layered over both my hoodie and Montbell to withstand far more extreme weather. Obviously will not fit in my bag so needs to be worn on flights.
    • Pullover Hoodie. I’ve tested dozens of hoodies, including high-end and custom-tailored ones. But they always get destroyed on hikes so I’m back to the cheap brands. In 2023 I switched from zip-ups to pullovers for the aesthetics and weight savings.
    • Arc’teryx Alpha SL Gloves. An extra-cold NYC winter converted me into wearing gloves and now they’re a permanent part of my kit. They’re especially useful for my wilderness and mountain adventures. Also, wearing gloves just feels cool.
    • Merino Buff. Near-limitless uses while traveling. I mostly use it as a face mask for cold weather and as a sleep mask on planes and buses, but I’ve also used it as a scarf, bandana, pillowcase, and more. Definitely one of the best pieces of travel gear I own.
    • RE:FORM RE:01 Wallet. A super-thin minimalist wallet with a magnetic pouch for an Airtag and small items. Much thinner than my previous wallet, which was custom-built. The material RE:FORM uses is insanely durable, I’ve been using it for several years and it still looks brand new. Disclaimer: the founder sent me this wallet.
      • Amazon Prime credit card. A decent card that gets 5% back on some stuff and 1-2% on the rest. The fact that it’s a metal card with a minimalist design and no annual fee was a big selling point for me, and it saves me a lot at Whole Foods.
      • Revolut debit card. Free ATM withdrawals while traveling. Most other cards have pivoted to add fees for international ATMs, Revolut is the only one I’ve used that hasn’t (though I’m sure they will eventually). ATM map link since the app’s map is rarely accurate.
      • Airtag. I’ve never lost my wallet, but Airtags are great for peace of mind.
      • Plus my ID, health insurance, bank cards, library card and emergency cash.
    • Sunglasses. A cheap pair of polarized sunglasses, stored in a small custom microfiber pouch from a defunct eyewear startup I used to run. If you’ve read my previous updates you’ll know I wore camera glasses intermittently since 2016. I stopped in 2024 after realizing I never used them and replaced them with a pair of normal sunglasses that actually look good.
    • True Utility Keytool. Probably the world’s most compact bottle opener and multitool. Bought it over a decade ago and it’s been on me every day since. Not much else to say, except that over a thousand people have bought it from this Amazon affiliate link with zero returns.
    • A.Brolly Umbrella. Weighs less than 90g and disappears in my bag. It’s a bit harder to deploy than a normal umbrella but the weight makes it worth it. It’s also obviously not the most durable umbrella, so during rainy seasons I’ll buy a slightly more durable one, often this one.
    • Matador Nanodry Shower Towel. Small enough to fit in my fist but also large enough to work as a beach towel. Dries incredibly quick and lasts years. I very rarely use this as I typically stay in places with towels, so it’s more of a “just in case” item.
    • Moleskine. Black with blank pages. Moleskine sketchbooks have been on and off my list for the past decade. It’s nice having physical paper instead of only screens sometimes.
      • Staedtler Pigment Liner. 0.05mm, black. Best pen on the planet, period. Used for drawing.
      • BIC Ballpoint Pen. Black. Second best pen on the planet. Used for writing. Also useful on planes when they hand out immigration forms
    • Dopp Kit. As minimalist as a toiletry kit gets. Most items get cycled out every month or two. All stored in the Rains pencil case, along with first aid and other small items.
    • First Aid Kit. My FAK has reduced in size over the years and now contains just the bare necessities. Everything is stuffed in a repurposed Altoids tin, which does get annoying to restock, so I sometimes resort to prepackaged Coleman kits.
    • Miscellaneous small things. Crammed in my FAK or in random pockets around my bag.
      • Tech kit. SIM card remover, iPhone teardown tools, Apple Pencil tips, Airtag batteries.
      • Also my passports and various documents

    The stuff I toss in my backpack for lengthy hiking trips, like parts of the PCT or mountains around the US and Mexico. I haven’t done any trips outside of weekend hikes recently so most of this gear needs to be upgraded to be more ultralight.

    The most difficult part about traveling with backpacking gear is keeping it airport-friendly. Knives, fuel, tent stakes, and tent/trekking poles aren’t allowed in carry-on, and while carbon fiber stakes and poles can usually sneak through, it’s not reliable.

    This setup weighs 4.4lbs/2kg and should drop to 3.5lbs/1.5kg with the mentioned upgrades. When optimized for volume, a full UL backpacking setup can use less than 10L of bag space.

    • 3F UL Gear tent. The best affordable ultralight tent ($70 when I bought it). I eventually want to replace it, but my commitment to staying compact in addition to ultralight rules out most UL tents as they’re typically made out of bulky DCF. The Lofoten 2 is appealing but I’m hoping eventually I’ll find the time and resources to build my own.
    • Sleeping bag. Unknown brand. Technically a liner but it works well enough for me. If I ever plan a trip to somewhere really cold I’ll replace it with something better.
    • Thermarest NeoAir Uberlite. An ultralight sleeping pad that weighs less than my phone. Size small, which doesn’t cover my lower legs but is worth it for the volume and weight savings.
    • Nitecore NU25 UL. An ultralight headlamp that weighs virtually nothing, fits in my pocket and is charged via USB-C. Although it is objectively the best headlamp, it feels like cheap plastic.
    • Portable kitchen. Everything but the fuel fits within the mug, which is also the perfect size to cook a packet of ramen. May switch to an alcohol stove eventually.
    • Sawyer Mini water filter. Probably the most important thing on this list and arguably the only thing I couldn’t survive without.
    • Smartwater 1L bottle. Two, one carries sanitized water with a sports cap to backflush the water filter while the other carries raw water with the filter on top.

    I clearly don’t buy things very often, and one way to make sure all my purchases are well thought out is to maintain a list and only buy items that have been on the list for some time. Rather than saving them as browser bookmarks I’ll just put them here.

    Thank you for reading!

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    • By delichon 2025-10-0614:5318 reply

      I lived out of a backpack for two months on a Pacific Crest Trail hike. I got comfortable with it and told myself that I had overcome my materialism, and could henceforth live happily without a lot of stuff and conveniences.

      Not so much. Now a couple of decades later, I've got a house and garage crammed with stuff. Yesterday I had a plumber here working on a leak, and this morning I have no running water, and here I am bravely holding back tears. My inner dialog is "this is unacceptable!" It turns out that climbing on the hedonic treadmill is practically effortless, but sliding down it is full of splinters.

      • By Ferret7446 2025-10-076:245 reply

        You couldn't survive with just a backpack if other people "overcame their materialism" and didn't own all of the capital that allowed you to survive, like providing you your equipment, food, knowledge, and emergency rescue if it came to it.

        Criticizing "hedonism" is its own kind of hedonism, or in common parlance, a first world problem. It is a luxury that cannot be indulged by poor societies.

        • By rhubarbtree 2025-10-077:281 reply

          I travelled the world with a backpack.

          The good news is, it took me nearly 20 years before I started taking hot showers for granted again. It really did make me very grateful for a lot of things.

          But I’ve also had similar thoughts to you.

          I watch a lot of hiking videos of the PCT etc as one day I’d like to walk it.

          When I watch those videos, and when I see people on social media telling folks to “drop out of the system, be free.” I can’t help but wonder exactly who is going to prepare their dehydrated meal packs for them.

          Absolutely nothing wrong with taking such trips, made me a better and more grateful person, but it’s not an alternative lifestyle.

          • By bloggie 2025-10-0711:142 reply

            This perspective reminds me that when people ask, oh you grow your own food and have food animals, it's like living off grid? their perspective is that farms get their input from the ground and sky, but this hasn't been true in centuries. there are many high-tech inputs for all types of modern farming, such as chemicals (even if they are organic chemicals), fuel, machinery, seeds, infrastructure, knowledge, financial instruments, and a market. in order to live off-grid, first you must invent the universe...

            • By elevation 2025-10-0717:20

              > in order to live off-grid, first you must invent the universe...

              Nobody is reinventing the universe, they just want a buffer.

              A buffer is a well made item that you can repair yourself, so you're not forced to purchase a replacement.

              A buffer is a shoebox with a lifetime supply of your favorite shaving razor.

              A buffer is a garden, a pantry of canned goods, a few hens to lay eggs for you.

              Each of these buffers insulates the bearer from the effects of supply chain disruption or even unemployment. Walmart could be out of eggs and razors -- but you'll be fine for quite some time, even if you didn't incubate your own chicks or make the razors by hand.

              > farms get their input from the ground and sky, but this hasn't been true in centuries

              Yes, industrial scales require industrial inputs, but a few hens will happily yield you a few eggs a day while living off your garden scraps and the insects they scratch up. And their waste returns nutrients to the soil -- a boone for a garden.

            • By jacobr1 2025-10-0715:18

              And need to acquire land

        • By falcor84 2025-10-078:093 reply

          There might be some version of a future where robots take care of managing the industry for our benefit in a post-scarcity setting, allowing us humans to live as simple a life as we want, knowing that when a material need arises the robots will be willing and able to quickly fulfill it for us.

          I don't think that's where we're headed, but I like imagining.

          • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:491 reply

            But… why? What you describe sounds like a dystopic vision, but you seem enthusiastic about it? Why?

            • By falcor84 2025-10-0811:171 reply

              I grew up watching Star Trek and its replicators ("Tea, Earl Grey, Hot"). So a core part of me is excited about this ideal future world where we wouldn't need to work to sustain ourselves, but would be free to use our time to explore the universe, or learn, or make art, or manage a vineyard.

              To me this vision of us being able to do whatever we want, while machines are available to take care of our necessities, to the extent we chose to rely on them, is almost heaven-like.

              And for a prehistoric context, according to researchers such as James Suzman, earlier in human history, we were a lot closer to this ideal than we are now [0].

              [0] https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/for-95-percent-of-human...

              • By Cthulhu_ 2025-10-1012:29

                Chief O'Brien is the underappreciated hero of Star Trek making Picard's lifestyle possible. I'm happy to see his hard work, often crawling on all fours in awkward spaces, got highlighted more in DS9.

                Or in other words, there were no automatic maintenance machines in the Star Trek universe at the time, it was all handwork still. Manufacturing and food prep was done by machines which solves some part of it I suppose.

          • By Muromec 2025-10-0710:242 reply

            With the direction everything is moving, we will get back slavery faster than we will get robots and AGI.

            • By techdmn 2025-10-0712:042 reply

              Slavery never went away, it just changed its name to Prison Labor. For fun here's a pair of stories about people being held past their release dates:

              * https://promiseofjustice.org/news/louisianans-illegally-kept...

              * https://www.corrections1.com/law-and-legislation/articles/re...

              • By bmicraft 2025-10-0713:392 reply

                For a lot of countries, it did go away.

                • By Cthulhu_ 2025-10-1012:31

                  I think if you look closely it was just hidden behind various structures, like e.g. hiring seasonal workers from abroad, housing them in your own (substandard) buildings, and cutting their wages by the amount of rent that you charge so their take-home is well below minimum wage. But they tolerate it because it's still better pay than they can get in their home country.

                • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:501 reply

                  It may have been made illegal, but it hasn’t gone away.

                  • By 542354234235 2025-10-0811:43

                    While slavery exists in various forms (wage slavery, prison labor, etc.) it is still important to make the distinction between those and the extreme form of chattel slavery that existed from the 16th to 19th century. People, and all their descendants, being literal property, able to be tortured, raped, and murdered with the same legal status as a couch tossed in a dumpster, is not the same as modern versions of slavery.

              • By axus 2025-10-0713:55

                My impression from school was that in the well-known slavery societies, slaves or serfs outnumbered free men.

                Maybe the number of sailors in deplorable conditions is equal to number of prisoners, worldwide. 0.2% of world population?

            • By falcor84 2025-10-0711:13

              My sci-fi filled head makes me most concerned they these will arrive concurrently.

          • By neves 2025-10-0819:28

            Do you know that in History every increase in productivity is appropriated by the ruler class?

            Your future isn't realistic.

            Just workers organization and democracy prevents it

        • By beAbU 2025-10-0714:521 reply

          > Criticizing "hedonism" is its own kind of hedonism

          It's like kink-shaming being someone's actual kink.

          Criticizing "hedonism" is its own kind of hedonism because you are overindulging yourself in your own sense of pride and smugness for "being better than everyone else"

          Not that the author of TFA is doing this, but claiming that you have overcome materialism while at the same time posting about it on instagram with your latest iphone, recording yourself on insta360 cameras, with your apple watch-recorded heart-rate superimposed on your videos is a bit silly.

          • By freedaddy 2025-10-092:52

            "criticizing hedonism is its own kind of hedonism"... ok by this logic it seems youve totally insulated the idea of hedonism from being criticized?

        • By tyrust 2025-10-0715:37

          Poor societies are perfectly capable of criticizing hedonism. I don't see what's luxurious about criticizing the many examples of absurd resource waste through luxury good consumption.

        • By Atomic_Torrfisk 2025-10-077:40

          Of course you can. This is just crabs in a bucket mentality.

          > Criticizing "hedonism" is its own kind of hedonism

          false dichotomy. Of course capitalism and our indulgence in material goods has gone too far. That does not mean we have to be totally pious in life.

      • By rockostrich 2025-10-0615:446 reply

        > It turns out that climbing on the hedonic treadmill is practically effortless, but sliding down it is full of splinters.

        Not sure if I'm missing a joke, but the whole point of the analogy being a treadmill is that there's nothing to fall down. Regardless of positive (running forward) or negative (going backward on the treadmill) life changes, your happiness will probably stay relatively consistent because you're on a treadmill and there's nowhere to go.

        The live out of a backpack lifestyle is definitely a unique way to experience the modern world and I'm sure it's fulfilling for the author, but you can even tell in their post that life caught up with them somewhat and they needed to start staying in one place a little longer in order to maintain social relationships. Their linked post about walking every block of Manhattan and tracking all of their movement since 2015 feels like the exact opposite of a minimalist lifestyle and it seems to me like they live out of a backpack not out of some anti-materialism lifestyle, but instead just as a practical way to fuel this obsession with traveling and tracking.

        I admit, I've seen the author's Instagram story about walking 100k steps in a day in NYC and watched the whole thing because it's interesting, but I also take that and posts like this with a grain of salt. I'll happily take my horde of shit I need to get rid of in the garage over obsessing about how I can optimize tracking my every movement.

        • By coldtea 2025-10-0623:20

          >Not sure if I'm missing a joke, but the whole point of the analogy being a treadmill is that there's nothing to fall down. Regardless of positive (running forward) or negative (going backward on the treadmill) life changes, your happiness will probably stay relatively consistent because you're on a treadmill and there's nowhere to go.

          That's not the point of the treadmill analogy.

          It's rather that you need to keep walking to maintain your stationary position, just like on a treadmill.

          Meaning the level of headonism you become accustomed to fades/blunts with time, and you want more, so you need to keep moving forward to stay at the same (hedonic) position (level).

          What the parent said, then, is valid: "climbing on the hedonic treadmill is practically effortless", being on a hedonic treadmill is our default psychological state. But to slide off and accept less hedonic level is very difficult.

        • By giardini 2025-10-074:41

          rockostrich says >"but the whole point of the analogy being a treadmill is that there's nothing to fall down."<

          Spoken by one who obviously has not fallen on a treadmill! Allow me to correct your misunderstanding:

          Falling on a treadmill is almost precisely the same as being drunk and disorderly and falling while facing the door of a saloon: that is, as if two thugs had grabbed your arms and thrown you unceremoniously and bodily out the door legs first and face down. Meanwhile you are (unsuccessfully) struggling to right yourself for some unknown reason [it's like a reflex response].

          Not a nice experience: it taught me to always use a treadmill that had the safety clip that stops the machine if you move too far.

          As for the comparative experience (being thrown out of a bar by thugs), the less said, the better.

        • By msluyter 2025-10-0616:531 reply

          Perhaps the joke is that the valence of going backward or forward isn't equivalent. IIRC, some studies show that people will generally accept smaller gains to avoid the possibility of loss. Eg, loss has a greater (negative) emotional impact than equivalent (positive) gains.

          • By vacuity 2025-10-0619:564 reply

            > I don't think it's reasonable to compare the risk of suffering a large loss with the risk of missing out on a large gain. If your annual income is $N, missing out on a gain of $N is bad, but not nearly as bad a suffering a loss of $N.

            - A comment I saw elsewhere on HN today

            It's quite rational, in many cases, to consider loss of an object X worse than gain of X. A less rigorous example I like to use: it's far easier, and unequal, to kill a person than revive a person.

            • By dylan604 2025-10-0621:03

              Isn't this the accepted advice for investment. Putting money in something that gains X% consistently with years of proven sustained growth vs putting money in something with potential 100X% growth but could give you negative growth if it fails has always been the advice in long term financial planning

            • By Dylan16807 2025-10-076:55

              > A less rigorous example I like to use: it's far easier, and unequal, to kill a person than revive a person.

              People's intuitions aren't going to work right for situations that are impossible. I don't think you should use that example. (Or if you mean medical revival from the edge of death, then it's very difficult to visualize a "kill" that's actually an equal amount of damage.)

              And things you own are fungible while people are not, which is itself enough to ruin the analogy.

            • By buellerbueller 2025-10-0620:50

              This, in a nutshell, is why Effective Altruism sucks.

        • By ehnto 2025-10-078:32

          It also relies on all your intellectual and creative persuits being digital in nature, otherwise all you have is the social and the travel.

          The lifestyle appealed to me too and I even worked towards it, but I don't think it could be a full time thing for someone who loves making things, "building a life" does in a sense require some permanency past your laptop.

        • By zevon 2025-10-0619:431 reply

          I don't know if you use some sort of safety treadmill but on many, you will fall if you don't/can't run anymore. There's your metaphor for life. Also, running on a treadmill is/can be viewed an image for not moving forward despite all the running you do.

          • By taneq 2025-10-0621:52

            Yeah, I thought the treadmill image was about having to keep running just to stay in the same place (a Red Queen’s race) rather than anything about falling down.

        • By BestHackerOnHN 2025-10-0623:00

          [dead]

      • By Aurornis 2025-10-0615:30

        > My inner dialog is "this is unacceptable!" It turns out that climbing on the hedonic treadmill is practically effortless, but sliding down it is full of splinters.

        For me, in situations like this the frustration comes from having invested so much into something that isn’t delivering what it was supposed to.

        For example, when my 20 year old car broke down it was an inconvenience, but I could also shrug it off because I got my money’s worth out of the car long ago.

        If an expensive brand new car broke down I would be inconvenienced, but the situation would be much more frustrating because I spent so much on a new car to avoid these issues.

      • By GuB-42 2025-10-0621:58

        It hurts a lot more if you are unprepared.

        When you are at home, you expect to have running water, on a hike, you expect not to and plan around it.

        But there are things you expect while on a hike that are unlike your daily life at home. Things like your day job, traffic, pollution, etc... If you had to share your trail with diesel trucks and get regular calls from your boss, you would probably be upset, even if that's what you have every day at home.

      • By hombre_fatal 2025-10-0614:565 reply

        Yeah, when we stop moving, it's so easy to start hoarding.

        I lived in Mexico for 10 years with just two duffelbags of clothes and essentials. I could carry both on a plane unchecked and be anywhere with nothing left behind, and I loved it.

        Now I look around me in my apartment I share with my girlfriend and have things I wouldn't have even conceived of, like a gaming PC with two monitors (for what??) and a closet full of clothes as if I don't wear the same 5 things.

        • By LeifCarrotson 2025-10-0615:542 reply

          I met a family who had just moved to Wisconson from Italy last week. The four of them (Mom, Dad, ~14yo son, and ~12yo daughter) packed everything they were going to bring with them into a backpack and two checked bags each. Incredible! What would you pick?

          I have a garage and a shed (OK, fine, it's a 24x36 barn) and a basement and a home office that barely contain the enormous quantity of my stuff at home. And yet I honestly think the highlight of this summer was waking up to the sunrise on one of the remotest parts of the Appalachian trail through the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, with no possessions that wouldn't fit in a 22L ultralight backpack - including several of the same items as this guy's kit.

          On the one hand, most of the stuff is replaceable, "fungible" if you like, rather than sentimental. On the other, I keep it because I like to have certain capabilities, like cooking and auto repair and home building - I can't fit a tablesaw or pressure washer or food processor in a backpack; I've got a rack of 24 giant totes in the garage with painting supplies and plumbing supplies and bike parts and specialty auto repair tool cases and on and on that each occupy more volume than the one backpack this guy lives out of. I also recognize that this is a colossally inefficient way to allocate things among a group of people: I'm not going to pay a painter $1500 to do a crappy job to repaint my bathroom when I can do it myself with far greater quality for $100 in paint and a couple hundred bucks worth of tools in a giant tote, and neither are most of my neighbors, but this means that a sizeable fraction of people in the neighborhood live around our own personal totes of painting supplies.

          If I was going to pay someone else to build and repair and maintain and clean the house/apartment/condo/hotel that I live in (when I'm not in a tent, that's only about 5% of my time), and to take care of the cars and bikes that I ride in and on, and to cook the variety of food that I eat, and on and on, I would have a lot less stuff. If I bought tools to do these tasks that I would use once and then sell/give/throw them away...that would be unaffordable for me. One of the lessons that my Dad passed down to me is to never buy a thing unless you have the resources in time, price of consumables, tools, and space to clean it, maintain it, fix it, and store it - those are real costs beyond the sticker price of a new toy.

          Where does the money come from that allows one to sleep in hotels, ride in rental cars, travel in airports, and eat in restaurants for years on end?

          • By Arainach 2025-10-0617:153 reply

            >Where does the money come from that allows one to sleep in hotels, ride in rental cars, travel in airports, and eat in restaurants for years on end?

            If you keep your standards modest, the math isn't as bad as it intuitively seems.

            A $100 hotel per night is the equivalent of a $3000 mortgage/rent. And if you're living out of one bag you don't necessarily need that and probably have cheaper options like hostels (or tent camping) available.

            If you're working a software job or have worked such jobs long enough to have a few million in assets gathering interest, the cost of living isn't prohibitive.

            • By ElevenLathe 2025-10-0618:173 reply

              In other words, it's not a problem if you're one of the wealthiest people ever to exist in human history.

              • By Arainach 2025-10-0618:372 reply

                At no point was this positioned as a "for everyone" approach. It requires resources and compromises. None of the gear in this article is particularly cheap.

                That said, the cost is not significantly different from other forms of living. The average rent in SF/NYC/Seattle/London/etc. is sky high as well.

                • By coldtea 2025-10-0623:24

                  >None of the gear in this article is particularly cheap.

                  For western standards they're not particularly expensive either. The most expensive things are the Macbook and the iPhone, and like 30%-40% of the US population has one or the other.

                • By probablynish 2025-10-0619:01

                  > None of the gear in this article is particularly cheap.

                  The $4 baseball cap isn't bad :) Darn Tough socks are also arguably also pretty cheap over a lifetime of use since the company mails you a free replacement pair if you wear one out

              • By hombre_fatal 2025-10-0813:41

                Well, their example budget is $100/night just in rent.

                My apartment in Guadalajara was $200/mo.

              • By lmm 2025-10-071:45

                If your on this site, that level of wealth is almost certainly easily available to you if you want it.

            • By 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2025-10-0618:002 reply

              My mortgage is under a thousand :O

              If I had a few million in assets I'd be retired

              • By lisbbb 2025-10-0618:554 reply

                Retirement sucks, tbh. The lack of well-defined purpose is awful.

                • By Arainach 2025-10-0619:201 reply

                  I feel like the real problem is tying one's purpose to employment. If you can't find value in your life without someone telling you what to do you should take some time off work and reflect deeply on that.

                  You don't have to sit at home in retirement. You can go out and be involved in any number of communities - volunteer, join local government, go do fundraising for a cause you care about. The biggest difference there is that if you're not enjoying it you can just leave and not worry about how you're paying rent.

                  • By ghaff 2025-10-0619:41

                    I certainly feel a lot better than where I was latterly. Would have preferred some projects that got a bit sidetracked for various reasons. Overall, pretty happy not having a full-time job. As I clean some things up though, definitely looking forward to having a more scheduled (if part-time) plan.

                • By jimbokun 2025-10-0621:141 reply

                  Retirement just means Fuck You money.

                  Can work for money or not, but if you are and your employer creates unacceptable or undesirable conditions you can immediately say Fuck You and just go do something else without worrying about covering the necessities of life.

                  • By holoduke 2025-10-0621:392 reply

                    Nah. That's not how it works. I could retire, but choose to keep working. The idea that you can simply step out is based on the idea that you don't need work.cbut in my case I need it for its social aspects and to stay motivated to do things. I still have the same issues as other people where in the mornings I just want to stay in bed. But I still go to work. Because I know it's ultimately a better choice.

                    • By jimbokun 2025-10-073:33

                      No that is not how it works.

                      It means you get to choose what to work on, instead of being forced to do work you don’t want to do to keep a roof over your head and food on the table.

                    • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:52

                      You are saying the same thing.

                • By fragmede 2025-10-0620:02

                  sorry if this comes across the wrong way, but you don't have to be retired. there's plenty of purposeful things you can find to give your life meaning. Given that you don't need to be paid, there are even more opportunities that could benefit from your expertise that you've built up over your career or careers.

                • By dsr_ 2025-10-0619:22

                  Humans always and only generate their own purpose. The awfulness is entirely on the side of having to work hard to sustain yourself.

              • By Arainach 2025-10-0618:43

                ....and?

                Different people make different choices on how to spend their money. Some spend their money on cigarettes, or sports season tickets, or modifications to cars, or collections of things. Some give most of their spare money to their church or a charity. Some send money off to relatives. Some travel.

                Hotels wherever you are probably aren't $100 a night.

                If you have a mortgage below $1000 you have something that almost no one in a western nation will ever see again. Congratulations, but your anecdote is irrelevant to basically everyone.

                The current 30 year fixed mortgage rate is about 6.3%. It should probably be higher. A $1000 payment would mean a loan for about $160000 - significantly less if property taxes and insurance are included in that mortgage payment. There are very few places in the world with a significant number of available jobs where most people can buy a house for that.

                Let's look through the midwest and throw a dart at Akron, OH. You're within commuting distance of Cleveland, you've got a university and an airport, there are probably jobs.

                Property taxes are 1.8%. Home insurance is hard to estimate but let's pretend $1500/yr. Average home sale price is around $137K. That puts you closer to $1200/mo, and most places are far worse.

            • By skeeter2020 2025-10-0621:371 reply

              >> worked such jobs long enough to have a few million in assets gathering interest

              so essentially no one in the entire world?

              • By qwertytyyuu 2025-10-0623:12

                Esesentially one born in the last 30 years at least

          • By hombre_fatal 2025-10-0813:57

            Yeah, a 28yo on a 'permanent holiday' has a very different life than someone like you who is doing, say, renovation work in the house you own. They are opposite stations in life in many ways.

            As for your final question, I was living in a cheap country. Rent was $200/mo with roommates. Taxis/Uber was cheap. Food was cheap. I made a modest wage in software.

        • By TimorousBestie 2025-10-0615:084 reply

          > like a gaming PC with two monitors (for what??)

          There’s nothing like the pleasure of idling in a pointless MMO on one screen while half-watching youtube autoplay on the other. Alternate Monster with White Claw and you’ve got peak hedonism.

          • By riversflow 2025-10-0617:08

            You missed the geekbar and the penjamim. For max effect also put on a twitch streamer in a different game, listen to imported pop music or edm, and idle in a discord. Oh and have a collection of fidget toys on your desk.

          • By Mr_Eri_Atlov 2025-10-0620:16

            My ideal is 3 monitors

            One in the middle for a game

            One to the right for a video

            One to the left with systems stats and an RSS feed

          • By jimbokun 2025-10-0621:16

            To each his own. This sounds terrible to me.

            Now bouncing between multiple Champions League games in the middle of an afternoon with easy access to good espresso…

        • By mr_toad 2025-10-0712:471 reply

          You can’t even carry one duffel bag unchecked on a budget airline anymore, unless its a very small one. Some of the cheaper airlines even charge extra for overhead luggage.

          • By hombre_fatal 2025-10-0813:37

            That might be true for domestic US flights, which I don't have experience with, but every airline between US and Mexico, or inside Mexico, has an option for 1x carry-on and 1x "personal item" where the personal item just needs to somewhat fit under the seat in front of you.

            This goes for Mexico's budget airline Viva Aerobus too.

        • By tdeck 2025-10-0714:481 reply

          I'm assuming you didn't cook much if at all during that time?

          • By hombre_fatal 2025-10-0813:391 reply

            I cooked. Everywhere I've lived had a pot, pan, cutting board, knife, etc. And I'm sure I bought some so-cheap-its-disposable kitchenware from time to time.

            • By tdeck 2025-10-096:01

              Makes sense, I was thinking even a minimal kitchen setup is about a full duffel bag worth.

        • By exe34 2025-10-0621:24

          I have a load of crap I've accumulated over the years, but I try to regularly look at and consider everything, with the aim of simply imagining life without it. I'm reasonably confident that I could get rid of most of it without missing it much if I had to - but for now I'm still holding on to them in case they become useful again. It currently costs me less to keep them than to replace them in the future.

      • By dheera 2025-10-0622:321 reply

        I used to do the one bag thing while travelling until I had more disposable income and could afford taxi rides, baggage fees and all of that.

        I used to own only things that I could move on my own and fit in a normal car, until I had more disposable income and hiring movers became a non-issue.

        I still try to maintain non-attachment to material things but I now welcome enjoying material things in a functional way. For example, I own a ton of kitchen gadgets and that allows me to make interesting food, but I'm not married sentimentally to any particular gadget.

        Things change, I guess.

        • By SwtCyber 2025-10-077:02

          Sometimes minimalism is a necessity, sometimes a choice and sometimes it's just not the hill you're climbing anymore

      • By jameslk 2025-10-0617:511 reply

        Your IKEA Nesting Instinct kicked in. The things you own ended up owning you

      • By beaker52 2025-10-0615:424 reply

        > I got comfortable with it and told myself that I had overcome my materialism, and could henceforth live happily without a lot of stuff and conveniences.

        Same. Exactly the same.

        I have often reflected that I have never been as happy as when I had the least stuff, either.

        I often wonder if it’s a) correlation or causation and b) whether the stuff is caused by dissatisfaction or the dissatisfaction is caused by the stuff, or both.

        Either way, I’m currently undergoing an intentional downsizing in my life, toward minimalism. Not the kind where I use it as an excuse to buy (more) expensive minimalist gear either.

        I’m shedding hobbies and interests that I have because I believe that they’ve become distractions that I bury myself in. Replacing them is far from my mind, but prising them out of my fingers is a very real challenge. It’s hardly backpack living, but it’s definitely moving in that direction.

        • By rockostrich 2025-10-0615:482 reply

          As always, moderation is important for any normal person. I think that applies to minimalism as well. Use it to cut unnecessary stuff out of your life, but unless you're some outlier then it's probably not good to try and live the most minimalist life that you can without causing some terrible mental health effects along the way.

          > I’m shedding hobbies and interests that I have because I believe that they’ve become distractions that I bury myself in.

          Maybe you just haven't found the right hobby? Hobbies should feel rewarding, not like a distraction.

          • By analog31 2025-10-072:171 reply

            "Moderation in all things, including moderation." -- St. Augustine

            • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:55

              “Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler.” —Albert Einstein.

          • By beaker52 2025-10-0616:011 reply

            Of course.

            And perhaps? For me, the reward comes from the learning. (Who would have thought, being a software engineer by trade).

            Luckily my brain has a self-invalidating cache, but my home, not so much. Perhaps I will find the right hobby, but it should not be something that involves the accumulation of things, because the things weigh a hidden cost of possession. It’s this hidden cost that hurts, like a tax, an inefficiency of the mind, or being. It’s insidious because it’s almost impossible to attribute the friction with the possession, because you’re often not actively dealing with it, but it’s there. It’s like, you know you have 32gb of RAM, but for some reason you’re only working with 20gb but you can’t inspect what’s stealing the other 12gb. It’s only after removing things from disk, do you start to see the RAM getting freed up, and then you begin to appreciate the extra mental resources.

            • By rockostrich 2025-10-0616:49

              Not sure if you have a background outside of software engineering, but as someone who got a degree in mechanical engineering and then shifted over to software engineering I've landed on home/car maintenance as a pretty good base hobby to fall back on. There's always more to learn, you can do most of it with a pretty limited set of tools, and it has the added bonus of improving daily life.

              This may be a bit specific to me since I bought an older house and car in the past year and they require a bit more TLC. My partner and I painted all of the rooms (tools are just paint, brushes, and rollers). I've replaced almost all of the outlets and switches, including putting in a few zigbee switches (Sonoff ZBMINIR2s to be specific) since we have no overhead lights in any of our rooms and the switches don't control the right outlets... The only tools for that work are a screwdriver and a wire stripper. We also hung some cabinets in our living room and put up some bookshelves (made easier with power tools, but possible with hand tools). When it got warm, we did a bunch of work outside including some brick edging (bucket, mason line, and a trowel) and a fire pit (shovel, level, rake, and tamper).

              Cars require some more tools but you can do pretty much every bit of maintenance work with a standard set of wrenches, a jack, and jack stands.

              Everything just sits against the wall or in a toolbox in the garage. It's a big 2 car garage but it fits a home gym set-up, a TV on a cart, a workbench, a bunch of furniture that we need to get rid of on FB Marketplace, and there's still room to pull in a car (mine is in there right now since I'm changing the spark plugs).

        • By ip26 2025-10-083:59

          Away from home, I quickly find myself lamenting all the time I spend washing all my dishes, cookware, and laundry. Nothing is ever completely dry, and if you are tent camping you spend 30 minutes striking and 30 minutes pitching every day.

          I enjoy the outdoors but it’s also a great reminder of how much I love my dishwashing machine. Repairing it might take a few hours every few years, but it saves far more time on net.

        • By SwtCyber 2025-10-076:58

          It's easy to forget that minimalism isn’t just about stuff, it's about attention too

        • By gtowey 2025-10-0620:00

          There's more to it than that.

          I've been practicing this from a different perspective. It's not necessarily bad to have stuff or buy stuff, but you have to spend just as much time getting rid of things and evaluating their continued usefulness as you spend shopping and buying new things.

          In tech terms, if you have a queue which you only ever add items to, well we all know what happens.

          This second part of the process is overlooked, and particularly because our corporate overlords don't make any money from this careful consideration and management of our lives and the items within it. At least with my parents generation -- the boomers -- they went all in on purchasing with never getting rid of anything. Like a dragon and its hoard. Looking at craigslist estate sales is so crazy, because you see someone's lifetime of absolute junk they spent all their time accumulating, but obviously no time getting rid of anything. In fact, they just died and made it someone else's problem to deal with it.

      • By AaronAPU 2025-10-0615:181 reply

        I think in general we fill whatever amount of space we have available. Nature abhors a vacuum.

        • By bloomca 2025-10-076:05

          I believe any free space we have will be taken unless you actively fight for it. And while it is hard to maintain free space, clearing up taken space is even harder -- the discussion is usually what to put instead of something.

      • By adolph 2025-10-0620:06

        > I got comfortable with it and told myself that I had overcome my materialism

        Vervaeke's "Meaning Crisis" talks have interesting things to say about this sense of the world between modes of "having" (material) and "being" (existential).

          Fromm's point is we get mixed up. We try to satisfy our being needs within 
          the having mode. We suffer from "Modal Confusion". Think about how much our 
          culture is organized around this because it serves a lot of market interests 
          if I can confuse you, if I can get you to try and pursue your being needs 
          within the having mode. 
        
        https://www.meaningcrisis.co/episode-7-aristotles-world-view...

      • By SwtCyber 2025-10-076:54

        It's wild how fast we adapt to comfort, and how quickly the baseline shifts. One minute you're thrilled to drink creek water through a filter and sleep on rocks, and the next, not having running water feels like a personal apocalypse

      • By 65 2025-10-0618:532 reply

        Maybe one good thing about the torture of living in NYC is you get used to the torture of living in NYC.

        My very small, very expensive apartment has had no running water throughout the work day for the past two weeks because of water main construction (which I get woken up to at 7am every day). There's a jerk chicken restaurant next door to my apartment that blasts music all day long outside. Roaches and mice and rats. Long crowded subway commutes. I do hate this life in various ways, but I guess it toughens you up and you get used to it.

        • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:58

          Or you could just move? Plenty of very nice cities without any of that.

        • By yard2010 2025-10-0621:241 reply

          This resonates deeply with my personal experience, why does everyone like this? Is this becoming magical at some stage?

          • By lmm 2025-10-071:52

            Earning good money is magical, and having so many services available within strolling distance (or at most a subway ride) is magical. Noisy neighbours, vermin, and unreliable water supplies are problems that should be fixed, but there are good reasons so many people choose to live in cities.

      • By ortusdux 2025-10-0616:33

        we forget quickly

        we grow with our container

        we are all goldfish

      • By shelled 2025-10-0715:351 reply

        Did you really do one-bag?

        There are things I can't think of my days/weeks without. So for

        > In 2015 I got rid of everything I owned that didn’t fit in a laptop backpack

        There go my badminton rackets, cricket bat, and cycle. I couldn't care less about everything else :)

        (To be fair, the rackets may possibly fit into my Osprey 45L. Never tried.)

        On a more serious note: How much does health-care certainty factor into such travels? I am someone who doesn't have a family. So if a sudden death comes, I couldn't care less (I mean as of now - in advance), but I am perennially scared of falling sick and possibly needing care and hospitalisations, and when travelling (or without a base i.e one-bag kind of setup) and then there's at least the allergies, it becomes such a nightmare if you live in a country that doesn't have universal health care and is decidedly third world irrespective of the GDP.

        I am asking because when people blog about such plans and minimalism, the gory details of behind-the-curtain things are often left out, maybe not deliberately.

        • By delichon 2025-10-0717:29

          Yes, this was a long distance hike, it isn't practical to carry multiple bags. The backpack also included tarp, sleeping bag, food, fuel, water, stove. Roughly 5 days between resupply stops. The supply stops are often quite remote, far away from healthcare, so you would rely on the kindness of strangers for transport.

      • By raffael_de 2025-10-0616:031 reply

        Two months isn't really that long.

        • By dolebirchwood 2025-10-070:461 reply

          Maybe, but as someone who's done a 4-month backpacking stint, I was over it after 1 month, so I think even just that amount of time is enough to make an impact psychologically. By month 3, I was acclimated to it, but still eager to be done with it.

          (As an aside, the experience actually made me less enthusiastic about nature and gave me a deeper appreciation of civilization. Never in my life did I have such deep gratitude for having a flat paved sidewalk to walk on.)

          • By delichon 2025-10-072:091 reply

            After several weeks I got to a campsite that had a picnic table. It was such a pleasure to have a place to sit upright and prepare my dinner. I'll never take one for granted again. After getting used to doing everything on the ground a table and a bench are a luxury experience.

            • By Damogran6 2025-10-0716:47

              We're in a mode where we're 'camping' with a 5th wheel trailer. It has COMPLETELY altered my travelling experience in ways I never expected. Being in Nature, with a clean bathroom and warm shower and cold beer makes the experience amazing.

              More in line with this thread: Our house is full of stuff. It's a long story that ends up being: four adults living in the space that holds two comfortably.

              Having the trailer lets us spend time in a relatively uncluttered environment. IT's a reset that lets me not get quite so worked up about the time I spend not-camping.

              None of this is, in any way, cheap.

      • By carabiner 2025-10-0618:10

        I thru-hiked the PCT in 5 months 10 years ago. Same experience. I remember eating on the trail 2 bricks of instant ramen for dinner every day and being utterly content. It was the most raw form of living I've ever experienced.

      • By jeremymaluf 2025-10-0619:25

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    • By nadermx 2025-10-0615:406 reply

      Before being a digital nomad was cool I went full nomad. I remember being in a hostel in Thailand and just throwing away everything I had brought, going down to the basics. Ended up with a similar setup.

      The thing is, after years of doing it, learning new languages, making friends all over, and then leaving knowing you might not see them again for ever or for long stints, you start to feel the yearning to be able to connect with people on a deeper level.

      Now I have an apartment and basically only travel for weddings, I still go super light. But there is a joy in having variety in clothing or sneakers to wear. Friends who you've had multiple conversations with over the year's, even family who comes to visit you.

      I'm happy I rid myself of it all, but I'm also happy that now my apartment has the basics, and maybe a bit more. And I'm fine with it. Life doesn't have to be binary, you can mix and match and end up happy either way.

      • By dalke 2025-10-0617:501 reply

        I was a nomad for about a year. Towards the end I was tired of the constant leaving.

        I asked for advice from an NGO who moves countries often. She said what happens is the NGO members become part of the extended connection, which helps with that situation.

        Even when I was a nomad, I wouldn't have been without a suitcase. My big hobby then was dancing - mostly salsa and tango - and I needed several changes of clothes and dance shoes. And, umm, not all black clothes.

        To make it worse, indoor smoking was legal, so I would come home with stinky clothes that I wouldn't want to wear again until washing.

        I also did some upper undergrad/grad level visiting teaching, and would stay at a staff members home, or in one case the home of the parents of one of the grad students. I brought a dozen or so greeting-style cards with nice pictures of the city I used to live in, so I could leave them as a thank you, with an image of what for them would be an exotic place.

        • By radicalriddler 2025-10-0621:14

          I went backpacking last year for only a little over a month. Absolute pain in my chest when someone who I'd gotten to known over the past few days said it was their last day lol.

      • By SwtCyber 2025-10-077:05

        The wisdom here is in realizing it's not about choosing one lifestyle forever, it's about adapting as your values shift. Love the balance you've found

      • By et-al 2025-10-0620:26

        Yup, we all go through difference phases of life.

        We have a nice airbed (oxymoron?) in our apartment that gets used maybe 3-4 times a year. It takes up more space than the author's backpack, but it's also great whenever a friend or family member would like to visit on short notice (along with a set of sheets, towels, collection of hotel toothbrushes...).

      • By Asooka 2025-10-0618:141 reply

        >The thing is, after years of doing it, learning new languages, making friends all over, and then leaving knowing you might not see them again for ever or for long stints, you start to feel the yearning to be able to connect with people on a deeper level.

        A rolling stone gathers no moss, as they say.

      • By qgin 2025-10-0616:31

        I think this is key. I travel nearly zero these days due to a long list of reasons, but the mental exercise of thinking about whether I could travel with my stuff helps me be more conscious about accumulating things that I don’t really need.

      • By kilroy123 2025-10-0623:09

        I was a nomad for almost a decade! Can confirm all of this.

        I am trying to build a normal life in one place for the foreseeable future, with a place full of stuff again. :)

    • By driverdan 2025-10-070:177 reply

      I did this for a bit. The approach is very useful to learn. Traveling light is so, so much better. I never check bags unless there's a very good reason. It does have some downsides.

      You're constantly making and throwing away relationships. I found this the hardest part.

      Your lifestyle is subsidized by society. You depend on other people and services to make it work. You either have to eat out all the time or make many small trips to grocery stores and rent places with furnished kitchens. There is no self reliance, no preparation for things to go wrong besides saving money and hoping you can buy your way out.

      There are opportunity costs. If OP had bought real estate in 2015 they would be better off financially. It's one of the reasons I stopped living in a bus and bought a house. Had I bought the last two times I "moved" in 2011 or 2016 I'd have almost enough money to retire and live OP's lifestyle permanently.

      • By porphyra 2025-10-070:253 reply

        > You're constantly making and throwing away relationships.

        Yeah, this lifestyle basically only works as a single young adult. Once you have a significant other, it's very, very hard. Once you have a kid, it's impossible.

        • By doix 2025-10-077:322 reply

          > Yeah, this lifestyle basically only works as a single young adult. Once you have a significant other, it's very, very hard.

          I've been doing it with my significant other for 5ish years now. I would say it's _much_ harder to do it solo and I would've settled down long ago if it wasn't for her.

          • By porphyra 2025-10-0715:481 reply

            > I would've settled down long ago if it wasn't for her.

            Maybe it's much harder for her then, since you're the one who wants to settle down but she has to drag you around with only a backpack!

            • By doix 2025-10-083:48

              No, we're both happy. I just mean if I was solo, the throwing away relationships part would get exhausting. When you travel with a partner, you at least have one person that's constant through out the whole thing.

              She feels the same way.

          • By adastra22 2025-10-0713:59

            Get back to us when you have a kid.

        • By jhbadger 2025-10-071:432 reply

          Paul Erdős basically lived most of the second half of his (extremely productive) adult life like this (although he lived out of a suitcase rather than a backpack so he had slightly more room). Although granted he never married and had no children.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s

          • By jojobas 2025-10-076:262 reply

            Relatively few people's economic output can compare with them producing new people. If your last name is not Feynman or Curie your most valuable contribution to the society is a couple of kids.

            • By Dylan16807 2025-10-077:092 reply

              I'm not sure about this math. What percent of my kids' economic output am I supposed to take credit for?

              And even if it's "all of it", if you can make some big company or semi-common job 0.00001x more efficient then that's a bigger impact than having kids.

              • By jojobas 2025-10-0711:05

                Your kids have about the same chance of making the efficiency improvement. If you end your line, this chance is zero.

              • By rhubarbtree 2025-10-077:301 reply

                Anything you can do, your kids can also do, so leverage.

                • By Dylan16807 2025-10-077:441 reply

                  1. I exist at a particular point in time with particular skills. My kids cannot do the same things.

                  2. Even if they did do the same thing, getting it done 30 years earlier has a bigger effect.

                  3. I still don't think it's right for me to take 100% credit for everything my kids do.

                  • By rhubarbtree 2025-10-079:382 reply

                    Not sure if that’s good faith, but of course your kids’ contribution doesn’t have to be the same one you make. That would be absurd.

                    If you don’t have kids, their contributions won’t exist.

                    • By Dylan16807 2025-10-0710:181 reply

                      It's good faith, I wasn't sure how literal you were being so I threw it in.

                      But importantly my kids might be more capable than me or less capable than me to effect change. Who knows!

                      > If you don’t have kids, their contributions won’t exist.

                      My choices alter a million things about the future. If we look at everything I was a critical step in causing then we're going to massively overvalue my contributions.

                      Also, shouldn't all my contributions be chocked up to my ancestors if that's how we're doing it? Leaving me with no points of my own?

                      • By jojobas 2025-10-0711:03

                        On average, kids make about average a contribution.

                    • By jibal 2025-10-102:47

                      pot/kettle/black

            • By Jedd 2025-10-076:376 reply

              Counterpoint - the best single thing you can do for the planet, in terms of minimising your consumption / ecological footprint, is to not spawn.

              • By ptsneves 2025-10-0711:24

                No need to blame it on one’s spawn, one can start now…

                Also why is ecological footprint even important itself? Our eco system has no more reason to exist than any of its components, including humans.

              • By account42 2025-10-088:451 reply

                This will only result in others reproducing more to replace those who are predispositioned to think like you.

                Also, have fun not having anyone to take care about you when you grow old. And your retirement won't be worth shit either without a new generation to keep the economy going.

                Yeah no thanks, fuck your anti-natalism. You might as well remove your own ecological footprint if you would deny your children's their existence for that reason.

                • By Jedd 2025-10-115:40

                  I think perhaps you have misunderstood what a counterpoint is.

              • By bluebarbet 2025-10-0712:471 reply

                While true, it's functionally irrelevant. Humans are animals, animals procreate. Telling people not to do it because reasons is going to be about as effective as telling them not to eat or sleep.

                What I would like to see is a norm on numbers of children. Personally, I think that having more than the replacement number - i.e. more than 2 - is straightforwardly unethical given the stress our planet is under. But by the same token, 2 or fewer is fine. And it would be nice if those who choose to have none got a little more respect for it.

                • By 542354234235 2025-10-0812:001 reply

                  But humans can actually make conscious choices beyond their base animal pressures. We use prophylactics even though those go against our animal pressure to procreate. We help strangers even if it won't improve our own situation and without any expectation of future reciprocation. We have to eat and sleep to live, we don't have to have children.

                  We also have cultural pressures, which can shape individual behavior. We could have a culture where the default is not to have kids, but that you should not have kids unless you are stable and secure enough to have then and are prepared to invest sufficiently in raising them.

                  • By jojobas 2025-10-090:11

                    Worse, than that, if you preach antinatalism it has any chance of catching up with people of some knowledge and reflection, leaving the Earth to the children of those of less knowledge and reflection.

              • By adastra22 2025-10-0714:011 reply

                1) This is simply not true. 2) Why tf should I car about the planet over human happiness?

                • By jibal 2025-10-102:50

                  It is true. And google sociopathy.

              • By anthonypasq 2025-10-0714:41

                the planet is a rock

              • By tenuousemphasis 2025-10-079:052 reply

                Probably the single best thing you can do for the planet is become a green energy lobbyist.

                • By account42 2025-10-088:47

                  You mean by getting nuclear plants shut down, which are then replaced by increased gas and coal energy production because those are the only realistic alternatives?

                • By jojobas 2025-10-0711:04

                  Only if the deal includes a private jet.

          • By sandspar 2025-10-072:12

            Erdos is awesome but he's so singular that I think his exception makes the rule.

        • By Loocid 2025-10-077:402 reply

          I agree with the kid point, but YouTube is littered with travel influencer couples that are living this lifestyle.

          I would imagine if you had significant other to join you on this lifestyle, it would be significantly easier since your companionship is covered.

          • By adastra22 2025-10-0714:02

            These people’s lives are not what they’re showing in the YouTube channel.

          • By dominicrose 2025-10-078:531 reply

            youtube isn't real life, it's what the algorithm shows

            • By Loocid 2025-10-079:03

              Of course, my main point was my second sentence and was using YouTube as an example.

              I know I'd be much happier travelling with my partner than solo.

      • By DennisP 2025-10-070:401 reply

        One way or another, I think most of us have lifestyles subsidized by society.

        OP could also have bought stocks in 2015, and perhaps done even better than buying a house. Since the beginning of that year, the S&P500 has more than tripled, while housing has gone up about 50% (though of course leverage helps). For all we know, OP does hold stocks, which wouldn't cramp his lifestyle at all.

        Plus he claims to spend less with this lifestyle, which also helps.

        https://www.in2013dollars.com/Housing/price-inflation

        • By driverdan 2025-10-0719:271 reply

          Interest, leverage, and volatility are far better for a primary dwelling than equities which is why they would have been such a good investment.

          • By DennisP 2025-10-1018:28

            And diversification is better with an index fund. Both routes have their benefits and drawbacks. I wouldn't say you're paying an "opportunity cost" either way.

      • By lmm 2025-10-071:421 reply

        > Your lifestyle is subsidized by society. You depend on other people and services to make it work. You either have to eat out all the time or make many small trips to grocery stores and rent places with furnished kitchens. There is no self reliance, no preparation for things to go wrong besides saving money and hoping you can buy your way out.

        Everyone lives in and depends on society. I don't think that means you're being "subsidized"; if anything the footprint of living like this is much smaller than someone who owns a house full of stuff and drives a car every day. (At least if you skip the routine flying part. Trains and boats are great)

        • By rhubarbtree 2025-10-077:312 reply

          You’re subsidised if you’re not contributing back what you take, if you’re not participating positively in a system but are reliant on it.

          • By doix 2025-10-077:351 reply

            I don't see how that applies here though. You are paying for all the services you consume. Someone that eats out all the time contributes significantly more economically to the restaurants in the area compared to someone that lives in the area permanently but always cooks at home.

            • By account42 2025-10-088:551 reply

              But those services can't exist without other people owning all the equipment and land needed to provide them. Once your quest for minimalism turns into externalizing the things you need to survive (instead of getting rid of things you don't need) then maybe you have lost the plot.

              • By doix 2025-10-0810:39

                I don't get this line of reasoning. The average person doesn't grow their own food, everyone has already externalized the things they need to survive.

                The difference between going to the supermarket and then cooking your food vs going to eat at a restaurant is just relying on the restaurant existing.

                The restaurant existing relies on people visiting it, so by visiting it, you are helping the restaurant and they are helping you. I just cannot agree that this lifestyle is "subsidized" by society. Enabled, sure, but modern lifestyle is enabled by society and that's generally a good thing.

      • By mcdeltat 2025-10-071:22

        > no preparation for things to go wrong besides saving money and hoping you can buy your way out

        I always wondered about the cost effectiveness of these alternate living arrangements. Like the probability of having to rely on huge amounts of savings seems high versus having a stable setup. And having a stable setup is already so expensive. I can't imagine eating out for every meal. I can cook food for a week for the price of 1 or 2 premade meals. And then you can't carry much so what are you constantly rebuying things? Idk seems like a lifestyle for the rich / lucky / people who have a great life safety net.

      • By cirrrrrrus 2025-10-077:01

        I regularly pack for my wife and two toddlers (1 and 3yo) in a 40L + additional 10L bags. It is very hard, means adults also have to surrender even more items to make room for books, toys and nappies, but it is not impossible. The reasons that made us do this is we wanted to only travel by train (europe based).

        It’s a highly freeing exercise that is hard but doable. Only works for vacations (a day to a month) though.

      • By jeevships 2025-10-079:25

        I'm currently doing this right now. Living out of a 38L backpack while coding an app living out of hostels in SEA. I have 3 pairs of shorts, 4 t shirts, 1 pair of vans, 1 pair of nike trail runners, laptop, bose headphones, toiletries, 2 hats, and thats pretty much it.

        > You're constantly making and throwing away relationships. I found this the hardest part.

        very true. it's harder to keep in contact with freinds who you make deeper connections with. But whats the alternative, to not make them in the first place?

        > Your lifestyle is subsidized by society. You depend on other people and services to make it work. You either have to eat out all the time or make many small trips to grocery stores and rent places with furnished kitchens. There is no self reliance, no preparation for things to go wrong besides saving money and hoping you can buy your way out.

        True, I eat out every meal, have a membership at a coworking space, and either go for runs or use public outdoor gyms for exercise.

        I've been following up on and off for a bit, seen his posts on reddit, etc.. I'm not sure how he funds his lifestyle; he seams to just walk all day...

      • By csomar 2025-10-0716:22

        Say you own your own house and you fill it with, uhm, all kind of stuff. You still rely on society for electricy, water, sewage, internet, roads, the same stuff you are storing, etc..

        So no, his life style is much subsidized by society as someone with his own home. The subsidy is probably relative to your footprint. So maybe less?

        > You're constantly making and throwing away relationships. I found this the hardest part.

        I've been thinking about it too. I've made a few relationships but as soon as they break (or I break) off the trail, the relationship goes with it.

        I don't think this is avoidable. You are seeing way more people than a sedentary life allows. You are probably not going to make these relationships in a small 300K city.

        > There are opportunity costs. If OP had bought real estate in 2015 they would be better off financially. It's one of the reasons I stopped living in a bus and bought a house. Had I bought the last two times I "moved" in 2011 or 2016 I'd have almost enough money to retire and live OP's lifestyle permanently.

        I bought crypto, so it paid off way better than any real estate market in the world and all that money is liquid and ready to buy you a rental anywhere in the world.

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