Why it takes you and an elephant the same amount of time to poop (2017)

2026-03-0620:197274www.pbs.org

Defecation duration is surprisingly similar throughout the mammal world. The average mammal defecates for 12 seconds, even though volume varies greatly between species.

The ancient Chinese practiced copromancy, the diagnosis of health based on the shape, size and texture of feces. So did the Egyptians, the Greeks and nearly every ancient culture. Even today, your doctor may ask when you last had a bowel movement and to describe it in exquisite detail.

Sure, it's uncomfortable to talk about. But that's where science comes in, because what we don't like to discuss can still cause harm. Irritable bowel syndrome, inflammatory bowel disease, gastrointestinal infections and other poop-related ailments cost Americans billions of dollars annually.

But trying to stem these problems was not our main motivation for trying to figure out some of the physics of defecation. It was something else, much more sinister.

From personal observation, into the lab

When parenthood hits, it hits hard. One of us is a working dad who survived by learning a new set of skills, one of which was fecal analysis. Years of diaper changes and then potty training turned me from a poo-analysis novice to a wizened connoisseur. My life passes by in a series of images: hard feces pellets like peas to long feces like a smooth snake to a puddle of brown water.

Unlike the ancients, we didn't believe that we could predict the future from children's stool. But we did think it was worth trying to understand where all these shapes come from. Having a laboratory to answer questions about the everyday world is one of the distinct pleasures of being a scientist.

As fluid dynamicists, we joined forces with colorectal surgeon Daniel Chu, and two stalwart undergraduates, Candice Kaminski and Morgan LaMarca, who filmed defecation and hand-picked feces from 34 mammalian species at Zoo Atlanta in order to measure their density and viscosity.

We learned that most elephants and other herbivores create "floaters" while most tigers and other carnivores create "sinkers." Inadvertently, we also ranked feces from most to least smelly, starting with tiger and rhino and going all the way to panda. The zoo's variety of animals provided us with a range of fecal sizes and shapes that served as independent pieces of evidence to validate our mathematical model of the duration of defecation.

We also placed the feces in a device called a "rheometer," a precision blender that can measure the properties of liquid-like and solid-like materials such as chocolate and shampoo. Our lab shares two rheometers with Georgia Tech physicist Alberto Fernandez-Nieves. We have since categorized the rheometers as the "clean rheometer" and the "David Hu rheometer" – which has seen its fair share of frog saliva, mucus and feces.

The secret to the speed

What else did we learn? Bigger animals have longer feces. And bigger animals also defecate at higher speed. For instance, an elephant defecates at a speed of six centimeters per second, nearly six times as fast as a dog. The speed of defecation for humans is in between: two centimeters per second.

The relationship between body mass M and defecation time. Symbols represent experimental measurements; dashed line represents best fit to the data; solid line represents the theoretical prediction. Yang et al, DOI: 10.1039/C6SM02795D, CC BY-ND

The relationship between body mass M and defecation time. Symbols represent experimental measurements; dashed line represents best fit to the data; solid line represents the theoretical prediction. Yang et al, DOI: 10.1039/C6SM02795D, CC BY-ND

Together, this meant that defecation duration is constant across many animal species – around 12 seconds (plus or minus 7 seconds) – even though the volume varies greatly. Assuming a bell curve distribution, 66 percent of animals take between 5 and 19 seconds to defecate. It's a surprisingly small range, given that elephant feces have a volume of 20 liters, nearly a thousand times more than a dog's, at 10 milliliters. How can big animals defecate at such high speed?

Mucus on the surface of rat feces shines at t = 0 and evaporates in less than 30 seconds. Yang et al, DOI: 10.1039/C6SM02795D, CC BY-ND

Mucus on the surface of rat feces shines at t = 0 and evaporates in less than 30 seconds. Yang et al, DOI: 10.1039/C6SM02795D, CC BY-ND

The answer, we found, was in the properties of an ultra-thin layer of mucus lining the walls of the large intestine. The mucus layer is as thin as human hair, so thin that we could measure it only by weighing feces as the mucus evaporated. Despite being thin, the mucus is very slippery, more than 100 times less viscous than feces.

During defecation, feces moves like a solid plug. Therefore, in ideal conditions, the combined length and diameter of feces is simply determined by the shape of one's rectum and large intestine. One of the big findings of our study was that feces extend halfway up the length of the colon from the rectum.

A unified theory of pooping

Putting the length of feces together with the properties of mucus, we now have a cohesive physics story for how defecation happens. Bigger animals have longer feces, but also thicker mucus, enabling them to achieve high speeds with the same pressure. Without this mucus layer, defecation might not be possible. Alterations in mucus can contribute to several ailments, including chronic constipation and even infections by bacteria such as C. difficile in the gastrointestinal tract.

Beyond simply following our scientific curiosity, our measurements of feces have also had some practical applications. Our defecation data helped us design an adult diaper for astronauts. Astronauts want to stay in space suits for seven days, but are limited by their diapers. Taking advantage of the viscosity of feces, we designed a diaper that segregates the feces away from direct contact with skin. It was a semifinalist in the NASA Space Poop Challenge earlier this year.

It just shows that physics and mathematics can be used everywhere, even in your toilet bowl.

David Hu is an associate professor of mechanical engineering and biology and an adjunct associate professor of physics at Georgia Institute of Technology.

Patricia Yang is a Ph.D. student in mechanical engineering at Georgia Institute of Technology.

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  • By conductr 2026-03-0620:5522 reply

    I spent a lot of time in hospitals and got a lot of exposure to everything they do in my early adulthood, a few smells are permanently burnt into my brain including the smell of the GI wing.

    Fast forward a couple decades, and my dilemma right now is a coworker that I share a restroom with. It’s a low traffic restroom so I have seen and know it’s coming from him, but he has some serious GI issues. Likely he’s digesting blood from my memory of the ailments. And so the dilemma is, do I say something to him? He looks like he is in awful health and high probability with an awful diet (based on profiling him). But I don’t interact with him or have any type of relationship and saying something would be incredibly awkward. Surely he knows I tell myself.

    • By Alsedarna 2026-03-0621:10

      You'd be surprised how much discomfort people get acclimated to as just being normal and never end up diagnosing until something finally reaches the breaking point to forcing them in to see a doc. If it's been weighing on you for a while, you could probably gently broach it with something to the effect of "Hey man--I know there's no non-awkward way to put this, but I think your body might be digesting its own blood and I was worried about you and wanted to see if you were feeling alright."

    • By otikik 2026-03-0621:071 reply

      Absolutely tell him. There's two options, let's see what's the worst that can happen in every circumstance:

      * He is indeed sick. In this case the worst that can happen is that they will die.

      * He isn't sick, you are just imagining things. In this case the worst that can happen is that you made a bit of a fool of yourself. Potentially embarrasing yourself in front of a fellow employee. I guess there's a small possibility of him taking it the wrong way, I suppose.

      It's death on one hand versus a personal embarrassment/awkardness on the other. To me the choice is clear.

      • By 7777332215 2026-03-0621:241 reply

        Maybe he will get so offended you were smelling his shit and commented on it that he reports you to the top ranking officials of the organization resulting in the death penalty.

    • By emestifs 2026-03-0621:031 reply

      Reminds me of this story: fan spotted a mole on a hockey team's staff's neck - https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2022/01/03/hock...

      • By conductr 2026-03-0622:34

        I handled a lot of biopsy tissue back then, and oddly enough had a sexual encounter several years later where I implored her to go get a mammogram afterwards due to something I felt. She didn’t take it seriously and I hounded her about it. She finally went in and within a month had a double mastectomy and started chemo.

        Somehow a random person’s poop feels more awkward to discuss.

    • By lo_zamoyski 2026-03-0622:01

      If he looks sick, that might be enough to nudge him in the right direction, in private. "Are you okay? You really don't look well. Having worked in a GI wing at a hospital, I've noticed a few signs that might point to serious GI issues. I would suggest you see a doctor ASAP, just to be safe." If he asks what signs, you can say "among others, you look ill". That way, you can avoid talking about the smell. You can also say you don't feel comfortable getting into the details, but that you nonetheless felt morally bound to let him know based on your experience.

      Or perhaps mention it to your manager. He can then tell your coworker that there has been concern about his health and that he recommends seeing a specialist.

      What he does with that information is completely his responsibility after that. You cannot make anyone happy by force, and it isn't any of your business.

    • By SoftTalker 2026-03-0621:195 reply

      There was a time when medicine put a lot of focus on the smell and consistency of bowel movements. There's probably something to it but we have better diagnostics now. That said, normal bowel movements can have a bit of an odor but it should not be strong or particularly foul-smelling. If it is, consider changing your diet or getting it checked out if that doesn't help. I found that just cutting out fast foods made that particular bodily function nearly odorless.

      • By bluGill 2026-03-0622:05

        Doctors have better tools than smell and consistency. However you as a layman don't normally have/use those tools.

      • By 3eb7988a1663 2026-03-071:09

        Diabetes was originally diagnosed by having sweet urine.

      • By HarHarVeryFunny 2026-03-0622:11

        No, poop is meant to smell repulsive. This is evolution's way to discourage you from doing anything unhealthy like touching it or eating it.

      • By Fire-Dragon-DoL 2026-03-076:24

        You can make poop smell horribly by eating healthy stuff. Broccoli smells bad as vegetables, eat enough and it will smell similarly. Fart smells changes too based on what you eat.

        Krauts have a terrible smell and the resulting poop is as terrible...

      • By dinfinity 2026-03-0717:191 reply

        "Nearly odorless"?

        I call bullshit.

        • By SoftTalker 2026-03-0722:31

          Honestly just a fairly mild earthy smell. Nothing terrible. When I was a kid my dad could render the bathroom unapproachable for 15 minutes. But he drank whiskey and smoked.

    • By buffington 2026-03-0622:191 reply

      "Listen, I'm no doctor, but your shit stinks in a way that makes me think you need to see one," said while you're in the stall next to him, or any other time, couldn't hurt.

    • By bell-cot 2026-03-0621:28

      > do I say ... ?

      YES. Private, verbally. Intro with your long-ago medical experience in the area. Disclaimer with "obviously that experience is strongly biased toward illnesses, since they were in the hospital". Dunno whether you should mention anything as specific as "Likely he's digesting blood". Close with something about "not my business, but if you have not seen a doctor, then please do so, for your health's sake". Make it clear that he doesn't have to say anything to you in reply - not even a "thank you", let alone an answer or follow-up.

    • By bonsai_spool 2026-03-0621:051 reply

      > And so the dilemma is, do I say something to him? He looks like he is in awful health and high probability with an awful diet (based on profiling him). But I don’t interact with him or have any type of relationship and saying something would be incredibly awkward. Surely he knows I tell myself.

      It's an interesting question—if you have knowledge about human health based on a person's appearance, do you share that information? I think a physician may not do that for a stranger, but I imagine you aren't a physician.

      • By doctorhandshake 2026-03-0621:16

        As part of a speculative fiction project I have imagined this scenario playing out many times over as people who wear AR-style displays have, eg, melanomas pointed out to them on bodies of people who don’t wear and are unsure if they should say something.

    • By barbazoo 2026-03-0621:303 reply

      Anonymous note maybe if you really don't feel like talking to them.

      • By conductr 2026-03-0622:16

        This is my top ranking option , he’s actually the building door man so he will be able to view the cameras if he wanted to track me down but I doubt he’d confront me out of similar awkwardness and my positive intent.

        Think I will move forward with it and try to do my part to help the guy out.

      • By willturman 2026-03-0621:44

        Yeah, and make sure you cut out letters from magazines and paste them onto the note so you can't be identified by your handwriting.

      • By al_borland 2026-03-0621:40

        I think the not knowing who sent it would make it worse, at least for me. I’d assume everyone knows and be awkward around everyone.

    • By bluishgreen 2026-03-0621:06

      Likely Chron's. Yes, please proceed. But make some effort at being tactful about it, just so the information will be received and faster. This could be life changing for them.

    • By CommenterPerson 2026-03-0622:05

      How about a general chat and then asking him about his health? If he comes out saying he's not feeling great, that would be an opening for more pointed advice. If not, maybe you could say something like you thought he was looking under the weather.

    • By ThrowawayTestr 2026-03-071:39

      Highlight that you have hospital experience and this isn't coming out of nowhere. "Your body is digesting it's own blood" sounds specific enough he might take it seriously.

    • By derac 2026-03-0621:00

      Yes, say something. It's worth the awkwardness to potentially save someone's life. Just approach it delicately.

    • By handfuloflight 2026-03-0621:005 reply

      Wait, hold on. Are you saying from lingering smell you're able to determine that there's pathology?

      • By conductr 2026-03-0622:27

        It’s sufficiently foul and is heavy in the air, as in you can smell it for an hour or more after he’s left. The foulness reminds me of the GI wing we had, were the hospital put all these cases in a single cluster so as to try and contain the smell. A “GI bleed” has a uniquely poopy smell, that is what I remember quite specifically. Hard to explain other than it is more than a smell, I have a strong stomach and never got sick myself, but it almost makes even me want to vomit.

        FWIW, other smells that I recall quite well - child birth, or, more specifically the odor of women in labor (there’s a specific smell some women in labor produce, not all maybe half, that found it quite gross), gangrene and necrotic/rotting flesh, formalin, the morgue (it’s a weird mix of chemicals and rot), all come to mind.

      • By nitwit005 2026-03-0621:30

        You can tell something is going wrong at least. I had a university roommate with a hereditary gut issue. I was able to recognize who he inherited from after his father visited.

      • By lm28469 2026-03-0621:24

        There are a lot of reports of people, and animals, who can smell some cancers and other diseases. It's not very well studied but I don't think it's far fetched

      • By lo_zamoyski 2026-03-0622:101 reply

        It's not difficult for many conditions. Digested blood has a metallic and vile odor. Ketosis and diabetes can cause acetone-smelling breath. Kidney disease can cause ammonia body odor. Liver disease can cause a fishy, musty smell. Unhealthy diets and GI issues can cause bad odors.

        In the past, I have often wondered what is wrong with people given how badly they smelled in the locker room or after leaving a restroom. Truly unnatural odors.

        • By Fire-Dragon-DoL 2026-03-076:301 reply

          Wait, can you expand on the ammonia odor? Is it constant?

          My sweat when I exercise very intensely, smells like ammonia. Probably since I was 18 (before I played waterpolo, so I can't tell). Normally it does not, only with very intense exercise (zone 4 or 5).

          Edit: a kagi search suggested this is normal

          • By conductr 2026-03-0716:011 reply

            May be normal but also no reason to not get it checked out. Or at least mention at your next regular doctor appointment. Kidney disease is not binary and has phases, you might be getting an early warning sign with your sweat. You might just need to hydrate more as you sweat more.

            I worked in the kidney industry for a bit after the hospital thing and it’s something you don’t want to mess with. You can significantly delay the need for transplant if you catch it early.

            • By Fire-Dragon-DoL 2026-03-0716:23

              I will mention it for sure, thanks. It's unlikely the lack of hydration, I drink an entire liter if water in 30 minutes workout, lol

      • By comboy 2026-03-0621:08

        If that sounds fun, you gonna love the story of Joy Milne who can smell the Parkinson's disease.

    • By Fire-Dragon-DoL 2026-03-076:16

      You could leave a note (printed) addressed at them on their desk, folded, if you want no interaction

    • By jrs235 2026-03-0622:25

      Leave a note in the bathroom???

    • By friedtofu 2026-03-0621:53

      Are you sure your coworker hasn't been eating a lot of corn or pineapples lately(possibly leading to visible sores in the mouth?)

      If it's so low traffic maybe whenever y'all run into each other you could just do something subtle like a visual cue like a nod or just a "hey how are you?" if they seem to be in a good mood whenever you happen to pass by each other in the workplace.

      Not saying you have to be friends with this person but maybe after a few of those small interactions(and a little time) bring it up in a non-direct way...

      Best case scenario if he replies to a "hey how are ya?" with "oh good, how about you?" you could casually bring up something like "oohhh, had a patient that came in with (same symptoms as the guy) - we figured out it was this. Don't see that often!"

      Hopefully he's drinking at least 50 gallons of water a day, and eating tree bark seems to be a good remedy for GI issues.

      Oh wait, is your coworker a human or an elephant?

    • By lurking_swe 2026-03-0621:51

      have you considered writing a brief but anonymous letter, printing it, and putting it on his desk in a concealed envelope?

    • By wrecked_em 2026-03-0621:38

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  • By TheAceOfHearts 2026-03-0620:532 reply

    Since we're on the subject of waste removal, most mammals also pee for roughly the same amount of time [0], around 20 seconds. If you look up a video of an elephant urinating, it's quite the spectacle and the flow is voluminous.

    [0] https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/mammals-p...

    • By emestifs 2026-03-0620:56

      Amazing. Exactly the insightful comments that I hope to see on HN...perhaps not on the current subject but nonetheless

      > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

    • By 0cf8612b2e1e 2026-03-0621:181 reply

      That was a beautiful design choice to use milk jugs for the visual.

  • By layman51 2026-03-0620:452 reply

    This reminds me of a news story from many years ago about a research study that won the Ig Nobel Prize. The research study was about how almost all mammals weighing over 3 kg take just about the same amount of time to empty their bladders when urinating.

    • By 3eb7988a1663 2026-03-071:131 reply

      I need to know if this is also true of aquatic animals. A blue whale is ~50x the size of an African elephant. Does that mean that a blue whale expels some 2100 gallons (~8000 liters) in 20 seconds?

      • By Obscurity4340 2026-03-0713:17

        I wonder how much and forcefully they ejac

    • By cainxinth 2026-03-0622:53

      Mammals converged on systems that satisfy the same fluid-mechanics.

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