Enhancing gut-brain communication reversed cognitive decline in aging mice

2026-03-1216:38374181med.stanford.edu

Aging causes changes in gut bacteria in mice, which hampers communication between the intestines and the brain. Restoring this connection helped old mice form memories as well as young animals.

The sight of a delectable plate of lasagna or the aroma of a holiday ham are sure to get hungry bellies rumbling in anticipation of a feast to come. But although we’ve all experienced the sensation of “eating” with our eyes and noses before food meets mouth, much less is known about the information superhighway, known as the vagus nerve, that sends signals in the opposite direction — from your gut straight to your brain.

These signals relay more than just what you’ve eaten and when you are full. A new study in mice from researchers at Stanford Medicine and the Palo Alto, California-based Arc Institute has identified a critical link between the bacteria that live in your gut and the cognitive decline that often occurs with aging.

“Although memory loss is common with age, it affects people differently and at different ages,” said Christoph Thaiss, PhD, assistant professor of pathology. “We wanted to understand why some very old people remain cognitively sharp while other people see significant declines beginning in their 50s or 60s. What we learned is that the timeline of memory decline is not hardwired; it’s actively modulated in the body, and the gastrointestinal tract is a critical regulator of this process.”

Christoph Thaiss

The mouse study showed that the composition of the naturally occurring bacterial population that lives in the gut, known as the gut microbiome, changes with age — favoring some species of bacteria over others. These changes are registered by immune cells in the gastrointestinal tract, which spark an inflammatory response that hampers the ability of the vagus nerve to signal to the hippocampus — the part of the brain responsible for memory formation and spatial navigation. Stimulating the activity of the vagus nerve in older animals turned old, forgetful mice into whisker-sharp whizzes able to remember novel objects and escape from mazes as nimbly as their younger counterparts. 

“The degree of reversibility of age-related cognitive decline in the animals just by altering gut-brain communication was a surprise,” Thaiss said. “We tend to think of memory decline as a brain-intrinsic process. But this study indicates that we can enhance memory formation and brain activity by changing the composition of the gastrointestinal tract — a kind of remote control for the brain.”

Thaiss, who is also a core investigator at Palo Alto-based Arc Institute, is a senior author of the study, which was published March 11 in Nature. Maayan Levy, PhD, an assistant professor of pathology and Arc Institute innovation investigator, is the other senior author. Timothy Cox, a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania, is the lead author of the research.

“Our study emphasizes that processes in the brain can be modulated through peripheral intervention,” Levy said. “Since the gastrointestinal tract is easily accessible orally, modulating the abundance of gut microbiome metabolites is a very appealing strategy to control brain function.” 

The call is coming from inside the body

The idea that hundreds of species of bacteria are nestled comfortably in our intestines used to be surprising. But the gut microbiome is experiencing a kind of media heyday as people realize that its function is critical to not just how we digest our food, but also to our overall health. A little more than a decade ago, researchers showed that tinkering with rodents’ gut microbiomes affected the animals’ social and cognitive behaviors. Thaiss and Levy wondered whether a similar process could be responsible for the memory loss and cognitive troubles often associated with aging.

Signals from inside the body to the brain — like those that travel from the intestines to the brain via the vagus nerve — are part of what’s called interoception. In contrast, signals from outside the body, conveyed primarily by the five senses of taste, touch, smell, vision and hearing, are called exteroception.

This study indicates that we can enhance memory formation and brain activity by changing the composition of the gastrointestinal tract — a kind of remote control for the brain.”

—Christoph Thaiss

“Exteroception is basically how we perceive the outside,” Thaiss said. “We have a lot of detailed knowledge about how this works. But we know much less about how the brain senses what is going on inside the body. We don’t know how many internal senses there are, or even all of what they are sensing. It’s clear that our exteroception capabilities decline with age — we grow to need eyeglasses and hearing aids, for example. And this study shows that aging also affects interoception.”

To test their theory that the gut microbiome plays a role in the “senior moments” many of us experience, the researchers housed young (2-month-old) mice together with old (18-month-old) mice. Living (and pooping) in close proximity exposed the young mice to the gut microbiomes of the old mice and vice versa. After one month, the researchers examined the compositions of the microbiomes of the old and young animals.

They found that the shared digs caused the microbiomes of the young mice to more closely resemble that of the older animals. When they compared the abilities of the mice to recognize a novel object, or to find the exit in a maze, the young mice with “old” microbiomes performed significantly more poorly than their peers — showing less curiosity about the unfamiliar object and bumbling about the maze in ways similar to that of old animals.

When the researchers compared young mice and old mice raised in a germ-free environment since birth (meaning neither group had gut bacteria), the young mice maintained their ability to form memories. But when they transplanted young, germ-free mice with microbiomes from old mice, the young mice again performed like older animals in the memory and cognition tests. Interestingly, the germ-free old mice did not experience a loss of memory and cognition as they aged, performing as well as 2-month-old animals.

Strikingly, treating young mice with “old” microbiomes (and, therefore, faltering cognitive abilities) with broad-spectrum antibiotics for two weeks restored the animals’ cognitive abilities, causing them to avidly investigate unfamiliar objects and scamper through the maze as well as their control peers.

“The object recognition test is like cognitive recognition tests in humans, where you are shown a series of images, then have to remember which ones you’ve seen before after some time passes,” Thaiss said. “And the maze test is like people trying to recall where they parked their car at a large shopping center. What these tasks have in common, in mice and in people, is that they are very strongly dependent on activity in the hippocampus, because that is where memories are encoded.”

What’s different in their guts?

Digging deeper, the researchers identified specific changes that occur in the composition of the gut microbiome of mice as they age. In particular, the relative abundance of a bacteria called Parabacteroides goldsteinii increases in old mice and is directly associated with cognitive decline in the animals. They showed that colonizing the guts of young mice with this bacterial species inhibited their performance on the object recognition and maze escape tasks, and that this deficit correlated with a reduction of activity in the hippocampus.

When they treated old mice with a molecule that activates the vagus nerve, however, the cognitive performance of the animals was indistinguishable from that of young animals.

Further experiments showed that the increasing prevalence of the Parabacteroides goldsteinii bacteria correlated with an increasing amount of metabolites called medium-chain fatty acids, and that these metabolites cause a group of immune cells in the gut called myeloid cells to initiate an inflammatory response. This inflammation inhibits the activity of the vagus nerve, the activity of the hippocampus and the ability to form lasting memories.

Maayan Levy

Maayan Levy

“The GI tract is arguably the first organ system to evolve during human evolutionary history, so the evolution of cognitive processes in the brain has undoubtedly been shaped by signals coming from the intestine,” Levy said.

“It’s likely that signals from the GI tract play an important role in contextualizing memory formation.”

Thaiss added, “Basically, we’ve identified a three-step pathway toward cognitive decline that starts with gastrointestinal aging and the subsequent microbial and metabolic changes that occur. The myeloid cells in the GI tract sense these changes, and their inflammatory response impairs the connection between the gut and the brain via the vagus nerve. This is a direct driver of memory decline. And if we restore the activity of the vagus nerve, we can restore an old animal’s memory function to that of a young animal.”

The researchers are now investigating whether a similar gut microbiome and brain activity pathway exists in humans, and whether it also contributes to age-related cognitive decline. Importantly, vagus nerve stimulation is approved by the Food and Drug Administration as a treatment for depression or epilepsy and to aid stroke recovery. The researchers are also interested in developing ways to non-invasively monitor, and perhaps even control, the activity of peripheral neurons to affect memory formation and cognition.

“Our hope is that ultimately these findings can be translated into the clinic to combat age-related cognitive decline in people,” Thaiss said. 

Researchers from Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia; the University of California, Irvine; University College Cork, Ireland; Calico Life Sciences LLC; and the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia contributed to the work.

The study was funded by the Arc Institute, the National Institutes of Health (grants NIH DK019525, T32AG000255, F30AG081097, T32HG000046, F30AG080958, DP2-AG-067511, DP2-AG-067492, DP1-DK-140021, R01-NS-134976 and R01-DK-129691), the Burroughs Wellcome Fund, the American Cancer Society, the Pew Scholar Award, the Searle Scholar Program, the Edward Mallinckrodt Jr. Foundation, the W.W. Smith Charitable Trust, the Blavatnik Family Fellowship, the Prevent Cancer Foundation, the Polybio Research Foundation, the V Foundation, the Kathryn W. Davis Aging Brain Scholar Program, the McKnight Brain Research Foundation, the Kenneth Rainin Foundation, the IDSA Foundation and the Human Frontier Science Program.


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  • By inanutshellus 2026-03-1218:0711 reply

    Everyone's "poo-pooing" the article because the title doesn't mention mice, but, FWIW, stories of gut biota affecting humans behavior have been documented for a while.

    Memory gain is noteworthy, which is the article's "wow" factor, but everyone's just knee-jerk smirking so ... here's a few random articles to gross you out about the wild world of trading microbiota and, for better or worse, changing your personality:

      * "My butt made me crave candy."[1]
      * "Gee, I'm not bipolar anymore thanks to my husband's butt juice infusion."[2]
    
    Crazy, right?

       [1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-behavioral-microbiome/202404/hacking-an-individuals-personality-through-their-gut-contents
    
       [2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-28/faecal-microbiota-transplant-credited-with-curing-bipolar/105541522

    • By zinkem 2026-03-1220:067 reply

      I believe this research is totally true-- I had a lot of memories come back after

      1. I stopped drinking heavily and using other drugs, i.e. marijuana

      2. managed my diet to avoid heartburn without medication

      3. schedule my meals so it was easier to sleep at night (always eat something for breakfast when I wake up)

      I did not need any "poo infusion" or anything.

      I had a gal bladder removal that didn't fix the problems the doctors thought it would and got a lot smarter about the kinds and variety of food I eat.

      I believe alcohol in particular was really screwing up my gut biome and entire digestive system.

      • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:357 reply

        > 1. I stopped drinking heavily and using other drugs, i.e. marijuana

        Heavy alcohol use and marijuana are both known to impact memory and recall directly.

        Discontinuing both of those explains changes in memory. Attributing this to microbiome changes does not follow.

        • By uxhacker 2026-03-1312:001 reply

          This paper actually surveys research on humans and not mice.

          The association between gut microbiota and cognitive decline: A systematic review of the literature

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027153172...

          It shows ”Gut microbiota modulation improves cognition in adults with early impairment. Diet, probiotics, and fecal microbiota transplantation share mechanistic pathways and that evidence clarifies how microbiota-targeted strategies support cognitive health.”

          The action could be explained due to an anti inflammatory action by the gut biome.

          • By Aurornis 2026-03-1313:30

            Yes, there are some interesting potential mild modulations that can occur with microbiome change.

            That paper commits one of the major sins of many microbiome papers which is to attribute all benefits of diet change to the microbiome. Like the parent commenter it gets drawn to the idea that all changes in the body can be traced back to the microbiome and assumes that it explains everything, but that’s obviously not true.

            However, when someone is taking two powerful substances with direct brain action and known modulators effects on memory, blaming anything else in the body is bad logic.

        • By PeterStuer 2026-03-1317:37

          Anecdotal. I have never drank much alcohol, but an evening Trappist helped me turn off after a day's work.

          Since I stopped that habit, I do notice memory getting worse. Not saying it is THE EXPLANATION, but it is an observation non the less.

        • By coldtea 2026-03-138:253 reply

          >Heavy alcohol use and marijuana are both known to impact memory and recall directly.

          And who said they don't do this (long term) exactly through their affecting the gut microbiome?

          • By Aurornis 2026-03-1313:281 reply

            Both alcohol and marijuana have direct actions on the brain. That’s why people consume them.

            They do not exert their primary effects via microbiome modulation. This is obvious because the effects occur nearly immediately upon consumption, whereas microbiome change from what you consume is a gradual process.

            The question I have is: Why has microbiome become the explanation for everything? What would lead you to believe that microbiome would be the explanation for this, when the direct action upon the brain is so much more direct and obvious? Microbiome is an interesting area of research but how did we get to this point where some are ignoring the obvious and trying to construct alternative microbiome based explanations for things like alcohol and marijuana impairing memory?

            • By coldtea 2026-03-1314:29

              >Both alcohol and marijuana have direct actions on the brain. That’s why people consume them.

              Which is orthogonal as to whether those direct actions also affect long term memory.

              >They do not exert their primary effects via microbiome modulation.

              Who said anything about primary effects?

          • By wk_end 2026-03-1316:35

            I think the appropriate response here is some combination of Russell's Teapot and Occam's Razor: they might, but some kind of hard evidence is necessary before humouring that theory, particularly since there's a vastly simpler explanation on hand.

          • By red75prime 2026-03-139:061 reply

            Or by affecting the kidneys, or by affecting the enteric nervous system, or through some other pathway for which we have no substantial evidence of influencing memory (yet). It just seems like a baseless prioritization of a hypothesis. For some reason, people are specifically fascinated by the gut–brain axis.

            • By coldtea 2026-03-139:10

              >For some reason, people are specifically fascinated by the gut–brain axis.

              Might the reason be that we're constantly finding new important ways it affects things, or that we see major changes to seemingly orthogonal issues from targetting the gut microbiome directly?

        • By jb1991 2026-03-131:40

          It has been well recognized that alcohol significantly disrupts the bacteria in your gut.

        • By sfpotter 2026-03-131:32

          It could easily be both.

        • By fwip 2026-03-1313:52

          Also, getting better sleep (by fixing heartburn and meals) will mean you're more rested, and improve functioning during the day.

        • By monero-xmr 2026-03-133:28

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      • By wafflemaker 2026-03-135:071 reply

        The really crazy thing that happened to me when I changed diet to a more gut-biome friendly* is that (like I craved sweets before) I started craving vegetables and oatmeal. Like there was a regime change in my gut and the new guys pushed the buttons to get more of their food.

        (less/no simple sugars, much more vegetables and starches/fibers, regularly eating 4 corn/20 plant oatmeal few times a week)

        • By hattmall 2026-03-1312:191 reply

          > 4 corn/20 plant oatmeal

          What does this mean?

          • By wafflemaker 2026-03-1315:411 reply

            It's my own idea for a super oatmeal. Working on the idea that it's not just about having fiber in your diet, but more so about variated fiber. Each kind of fiber is preferred by a different type of gut bacteria (I'm just repeating after some hippy that most likely made that up). And the best gut biome is the most variated one. Usually pathologies stem from monocultures. Look at the most of the society. Bread, cookies, pretzels, even pizza etc. - it's all made of wheat. Sometimes you'll get oat cookies. But other grains show up in people's diets very rarely.

            Here's the recipe. I'm using norwegian 5-grain oatmeal that has oats, wheat, barley, rye and spelt:

            Recipe: Use two parts oatmeal (either 4-korn or 5-korn). Add one part nut mix and one part seed mix. So for 50 g of oats, add 25 g of nuts and 25 g of seeds.

            Seeds: 30% flaxseed 30% chia 20% pumpkin seeds 20% sesame

            Nuts: 4 parts walnuts 2 parts pecans 1 part Brazil nuts

            P.S.: since most of these ingredients are pretty cheap (oatmeal used to be poor mans food), you can upgrade to Eco versions of these and get much better taste, without going that much up in price. Especially nuts.

            Also, I have the nutmix and seed mix pre blended in 2 liter jars, so that I only have to mix them once a month or two.

      • By grvdrm 2026-03-1314:052 reply

        Fascinating to hear. I am trying to cut alcohol - still not entirely successful.

        But I've been able to cut for months at a time. Whenever the cut happens, I feel my brain sort of "return" roughly a week or two in.

        I'm not sure how to explain it other than something like fog clearing. Obviously makes some intuitive sense when you read it.

        However, as someone that has consumed alcohol somewhat regularly (sometimes more, sometimes less) since college, it's bizarre to think about that consumption in retrospect. In effect, years and years of "fog" - it makes me wonder how different or similar life would have been without that fog.

        Can't change the past now, but a data point and strong signal for the future.

        • By butlike 2026-03-1316:031 reply

          I feel that same way you described with the "fog" clearing. I don't know exactly what it is, but I'm imagining it being the fact I _finally_ get some good, restful sleep (with it taking about 2 weeks give or take for that clear headed feeling to regenerate).

          • By grvdrm 2026-03-1318:57

            Oddly I don’t feel like I sleep better, but probably do. But I’m sure you’re right about the impact of sleep as a contributor to the overall clearing.

      • By baldrunner2049 2026-03-1316:49

        weird. gal bladder removal made me a lot smarter too. no, really. cuz it didn't fix my problems either. well, it did but in an unexpected way. because it forced me to ask myself the real questions. so i started fixing my life, bit by bit. trial and error.

        theorem of indirection, i guess.

      • By y-curious 2026-03-1220:227 reply

        What did you do for heartburn? Just looking for ideas. I noticed reducing gluten helped me personally a lot

        • By WarmWash 2026-03-131:262 reply

          I stopped taking esomeprazole after being on it for 4 years, and frequently had to supplement with famotidine and tums anyway.

          I had an infection and was prescribed antibiotics, and needed to pause the esomeprazole. I asked gemini about it and it suggested I take two probiotics while on the antibiotics, Saccharomyces boulardii and Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG. I noticed after a few days that I wasn't getting heartburn, and started putting the pieces together.

          After the antibiotics ended, with still no heartburn, it recommend I add rhamnosus gg to the mix. So now I take all three daily and rarely get heartburn. It's been quiet a shock

          • By dwood_dev 2026-03-134:231 reply

            There is a weak association with use of PPIs and memory loss. I myself noticed a difference once I stopped taking omeprazole regularly.

            • By jgalt212 2026-03-1310:53

              Most doctors will say avoid long term use of PPIs for a variety of reasons. Famotidine is much easier on the body, albeit less effective than PPIs.

          • By virtue3 2026-03-132:021 reply

            thank you going to try this. I noticed my heartburn got a lot worse after having to take a few courses of antibiotics.

            • By hattmall 2026-03-1312:26

              Some good notes on heartburn, a fiber regime, some combination of wheat dextrin, psyllium husk, inulin. All 3 are different and serve a somewhat different function.

              Foods to eat, oatmeal, lentils.

              Ginger tea, activated charcoal tabs.

              Most all of that works very well to support gut bacteria so throwing some probiotics in as well can help. The gummy kind available in generic or Digestive Advantage work well!

        • By throwawaytea 2026-03-1222:33

          Im not saying to live this way, but a super restrictive test diet may open your eyes to some thing and then you can add back.

          I even once read that someone noticed an issue they tried to clear up for years with doctors went away on day 3 of a water fast. No, he wasn't going to fast forever. But he was shocked the first relief he ever had was that day. From there he solved his problem once his eyes were opened a bit.

          I'd personally try all ground beef for a week or two. It won't kill you. Is it ideal? Probably not. But you will not have any problems from that short trial. Then add things slowly until you have a whole good diet you like.

        • By throwawaytwit9 2026-03-1223:173 reply

          It may not work for you but I had years of chronic heartburn. While sick with covid in 2020, I stopped consuming coffee and alcohol. It took a few months and for the long covid symptoms to subside, and then no more heartburn. At all. I felt really dumb that I never connected it to coffee before. I didn’t experience direct symptoms from coffee and I didn’t consume an excess amount. But it definitely was the cause.

          • By jb1991 2026-03-131:45

            The kind of coffee you drink can make a huge difference as well. Filter coffee is typically larger in volume so there’s more acidic liquids going in to trigger your heartburn. Compared to espresso which is usually a smaller volume. It can be a huge difference in heartburn between coffee types.

          • By reverius42 2026-03-130:092 reply

            I'm a couple weeks into giving up coffee because of heartburn, and yeah, this tracks... unfortunately. I've replaced heartburn with heartache (having given up a beverage I've enjoyed daily for over 20 years).

            • By jb1991 2026-03-131:46

              What kind of coffee were you drinking? I replaced filter coffee with espresso and my heartburn went away.

            • By throwawaytwit9 2026-03-130:561 reply

              Good luck, my friend. I’m right there with you. It’s not the physical effects but the rituals and the social connections that I miss. I felt the same with coffee as I did with smoking, which I quit about 20 years ago. It’s remarkable how much these simple vice shape our daily lives.

              • By wafflemaker 2026-03-135:14

                Yup. Discovered me and my dad have ADHD at pretty much the same time. In our case (very stimulant sensitive) we had to quit coffee to use ADHD meds. While I eventually switched to Inka (a roasted grain coffee substitute) when I saw how my heart results get better without coffee, he still struggles. He recently quit meds for some time due to unwanted symptoms and told me how he was away with some friends and deeply relished being able to normally drink coffee again.

          • By james-bcn 2026-03-1310:51

            I can confirm that eliminating coffee can make a big difference.

        • By ekaryotic 2026-03-1221:121 reply

          not the commenter but I bake my own soda bread and found that i was getting heartburn from the salt that was in the recipe. once i eliminated that i could eat as much as i wanted. I also cannot eat salt preserved potato chips on consecutive days.

          • By m463 2026-03-132:341 reply

            I kind of wonder if sometimes acid reflux happens more than we realize, but we just notice it when spicy food comes up.

            • By frankzinger 2026-03-135:58

              Pretty sure this is correct. You only notice it when it comes right out of the top. Other days it may be 25%, 50%, or 75% of the way up. And that's still bad for your oesophagus over the long term. My dad got cancer right at the bottom and one potential cause was chronic acid reflux (GERD leading to Barrett's eosophagus).

        • By ratg13 2026-03-1222:51

          It might not be gluten (protein) that is affecting you, but the fructans (carbohydrates) that are found in wheat, rye, and barely which are high in FODMAPs.

          Look into low-FODMAP diets if you haven't already.

        • By 2OEH8eoCRo0 2026-03-1223:36

          My "chronic" acid reflux disappeared at USMC boot camp so...exercise, no snacking, no alcohol, and rigid sleep schedule?

        • By colordrops 2026-03-1221:25

          There are many resources online on which foods trigger gerd and reflux. Also, try the whole30 anti inflammation diet, and don't eat at least 2, preferably 4h before bed.

      • By XorNot 2026-03-1220:521 reply

        Your hypothesis here though is full of complicating factors.

        For example

        >I stopped drinking heavily and using other drugs, i.e. marijuana

        Like the primary change you made was to cut out using a whole bunch of drugs with known, significant neurological effects.

        • By random3 2026-03-1223:351 reply

          I think the "and" is for "stopped (both) A and B"

          • By root_axis 2026-03-132:29

            Yes, that's what they're pointing out. Changing multiple variables at once means you can't attribute changes to any one of those variables in particular.

      • By meindnoch 2026-03-139:391 reply

        So, you stopped being an alcoholic and pothead, and your memory improved?

        Wow, it must be those gut microbes!

    • By slibhb 2026-03-1221:346 reply

      In my opinion, gut microbiome stuff is massively overhyped.

      Here's a study that tried fecal transplants to treat mental illness (and found no effect): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41785480/

      The pattern with this stuff is that, when a blinded study is carried out, there's usually no effect.

      • By esperent 2026-03-1222:052 reply

        Here's a meta analysis of 12 studies showing that FMT has a significant effect in reducing depression:

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12536323/

        It also found the effect was greater in people with IBS.

        • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:471 reply

          This meta-analysis isn’t very convincing. Most of the studies included were primarily about other measures like IBS, COVID-related GI symptoms, or Fibromyalgia. Improving GI problems would be expected to improve mood.

          The positive result is heavily driven by an outlier study on Fibromyalgia that has results that look a little too suspicious relative to the other studies.

          • By codethief 2026-03-1317:29

            > Improving GI problems would be expected to improve mood.

            While improving GI problems might improve your mood, I don't think it is accurate to equate depression with "bad mood".

            A friend of mine has IBS and while her GI problems are under control most of the time, she still gets hit hard by depressive episodes.

        • By BizarroLand 2026-03-1222:53

          I wonder how that study would fare against a double blind where some people get FMT and others do not, but they are both given the same attention and care otherwise over the course of the study?

      • By systemsweird 2026-03-131:052 reply

        I think mainstream is mostly looking at the microbiome stuff wrong. Your microbiome is the downstream proxy of good lifestyle habits, not generally something to directly manage. Good diet, exercise, reducing stress, and sleeping well will improve digestion and all the downstream variables like microbiome, physical health, and mental health.

        This is basic ecology, the bacterial population dynamics in your colon are a direct result of substrate availability. If it’s primarily fiber, polyphenols, and other indigestible plant compounds reaching the colon you’ll likely have a healthy microbiome. If instead you malabsorb food from poor lifestyle factors and have macronutrients reaching the colon they’ll probably fuel blooms of pathogens. I think microbiome researchers need to talk with ecologists more to help advance the field out of the myopia it’s in.

        FMT does appear useful for special cases of infection like c-diff, but I think that’s led people to believe it’s a generally health promoting practice, when the research simply does not show it.

        • By randusername 2026-03-1314:46

          I like this measured take, but I think we can also expect it to be a virtuous cycle.

          Sure, you have to put in a lot of effort to get the system starting, but eventually the feedback loop pays dividends that outweigh the principal.

          Everything else about the human body seems to be this way, adaptation or maladaptation.

        • By adaptbrian 2026-03-132:142 reply

          It certainly anecdotal, but feels like you can positively effect your gut microbiome for example by riding a horse. Ive read research about how other mammals can share their microbiomes with humans, if its not the horses biome then what is it that so satisfingly calming post ride. Would love to be enlightened. Ride a horse if you need to destress, amazing creatures.

          • By meindnoch 2026-03-139:551 reply

            It certainly anecdotal, but feels like you can positively effect your gut microbiome for example by riding a bicycle. If its not the bike's biome then what is it that so satisfingly calming post ride. Would love to be enlightened. Ride a bike if you need to destress, amazing machines.

          • By woleium 2026-03-134:031 reply

            i guess in that case, washing woth soap everyday is probably a negative factor?

            • By ninalanyon 2026-03-1313:50

              Washing with soap everyday unless you are very dirty is indeed negative and can dry your skin. Especially as most of what is called soap now is not soap but a very complex collection of synthetic organic chemicals.

              Exactly how negative it is though is difficult to determine and probably varies from person to person.

      • By andrewl 2026-03-1221:521 reply

        Replying to slibhb, while the research involving mental illness is not conclusive, fecal transplants are a known and accepted treatment for persistent C. diff (Clostridioides difficile) infection. Just for the record.

        • By idiotsecant 2026-03-130:33

          This seems like it makes way, way more sense

      • By meindnoch 2026-03-139:49

        >The pattern with this stuff is that, when a blinded study is carried out, there's usually no effect.

        It must be the case that these microbes need the subject to be aware of their presence! Maybe the microbes have consciousness, and for the treatment to work, the microbes' consciousness has to entangle (via quantum mechanisms) with the subject's consciousness? Blind studies prevent this quantum entanglement to form, that's why the treatment stops working. We definitely need more research in this direction!

      • By RobotToaster 2026-03-139:56

        They found a 15 point MADRS change in the placebo group, that's huge, it's only a 60 point scale, and more than the average SSRI produces. Either the procedure itself is doing something or something isn't right with the study.

        Also one issue with all of these studies is they only look at averages and don't do subgroup analysis. It may be that a few patients have an underlying condition causing depression that is highly responsive to these interventions, while it has no effect on the others.

      • By butILoveLife 2026-03-1221:541 reply

        You are probably right on the specifics, but serotonin is produced/located in the gut, and its an incredibly important neurotransmitter.

        One day people will figure out how to use these correctly.

        • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:481 reply

          > but serotonin is produced/located in the gut, and its an incredibly important neurotransmitter.

          Serotonin in the gut doesn’t go to your brain. It serves a different function in the gut.

          The brain synthesizes serotonin inside of the brain. It doesn’t come from your gut.

          • By systemsweird 2026-03-131:20

            Thanks for following up with a correction. This is a myth that simply refuses to die. I cannot even count the number of times I’ve heard people repeating it.

    • By biophysboy 2026-03-1314:38

      There are a lot of HN users that think they are better at science because they know about p-hacking and the limitations of animal models.

    • By jimkleiber 2026-03-1219:161 reply

      There was a South Park episode about this years ago where everyone was trying to get it from Tom Brady.

    • By hbcondo714 2026-03-1218:244 reply

      I would recommend the site https://gutbrainaxistherapeutics.com for learning more about Microbiota Transplant Therapy (MTT) and its opportunities, especially for Autism and Pitt-Hopkins Syndrome.

      • By y-curious 2026-03-1220:262 reply

        I’ll dig in more but my first question when I see this: who are the donors exactly? Like who decides what the ideal gut microbiome is and that John Doe is the guy to provide his fecal matter to the masses?

        • By bregma 2026-03-1310:39

          More importantly: are there places that will pay me to make regular donations?

        • By ratg13 2026-03-1222:57

          You either need a lab to test donor samples first, or when this was more of a craze, a popular source of 'donations' for the DIY crowd was young children.

          If you're interested in digging into the people that were doing this, they had a website dedicated to everyone telling their stories of how they went about their own individual journeys.

          The website was called thepowerofpoop.com and looks like it's gone now, but is available on the wayback machine including individual articles and images.

          I would go back to at least 2022 .. I think they possibly got in legal trouble at some point and started taking things down.

      • By alpineman 2026-03-1313:572 reply

        Fecal transplants...people will do anything to avoid eating a balanced, largely/wholly plant-based diet with a wide variety of fruits and vegetables.

        • By MSFT_Edging 2026-03-1314:41

          I think the idea is that the biome is built up over time and you can't always just eat your way to certain bacteria growing in your gut.

          I think the fecal transplants help to essentially seed your gut with healthy bacteria, which makes adapting to the proper diet easier when your body isn't constantly fighting you.

        • By codethief 2026-03-1317:39

          It's not that simple.

          The last couple years, a buddy of mine did exactly what you proposed: He had massive GI problems, so he started watching what he ate, and… his problems became much worse.

          Fast forward to a couple months ago, when he sees a doctor specializing in this stuff and she tells him to significantly reduce plant-based food for a while "because your gut biome isn't able to handle it right now. You should go eat a burger every now and then." So he's been following her advice and all of sudden he is without any GI issues whatsoever.

          My buddy got lucky (found the right doctor, could eat his way out of it) but if your gut biome is seriously out of whack, I can definitely see the appeal of an FMT to kickstart your recovery.

      • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:41

        I would not recommend that site as a good resource.

        Microbiome transplant therapy is a domain full of grifters right now who will push it to vulnerable populations desperate for hope, like parents of autistic children. The real research results are much less promising for difficult conditions.

      • By idiotsecant 2026-03-130:321 reply

        There is zero evidence that poop transplants have any effect on autism, let's be clear here.

    • By harry8 2026-03-135:36

      "Reversing memory loss in mice via gut-brain communication"

      And nobody is bothered by the story. And it gets less clicks. People get cranky when they have been suckered.

    • By youknownothing 2026-03-1314:44

      "butt juice infusion" xD

    • By eek2121 2026-03-1221:31

      Not only are there tons of papers, there are off-label treatments (some that have improved more than 80% of the folks I'm about to mention), and this isn't just about age related decline, but cognitive impairment in general. Long COVID, ME/CFS, TBIs, and other conditions are widely considered to have a similar origin. If you are interested in this stuff, I encourage you to look up all the scientific papers on this. It is fascinating stuff.

    • By bitexploder 2026-03-1223:342 reply

      Most of the serotonin we produce comes from our gut.

      • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:371 reply

        Serotonin produced in the gut doesn’t get into your brain.

        This factoid is repeated everywhere but it’s misleading without knowing that gut serotonin is a different pool than brain serotonin and they have different functions.

        The brain synthesizes its serotonin locally within the brain.

        • By bitexploder 2026-03-130:511 reply

          Serotonin from the gut affects vagal neurons. They carry that signal directly to the brain. That has a significant effect on up and down regulation of mood and arousal.

          • By harrall 2026-03-132:431 reply

            Okay that’s like my company that uses Salesforce that sends an invoice to another company that also uses Salesforce.

            The fact that we both use Salesforce does not matter. It’s internal and doesn’t mean anything outside the company. Both the brain and gut re-used the molecule for their own internal signaling. Evolutionarily it was cheaper to use an existing molecule.

            To the brain, the invoice is just “I’m full” or “I’m hangry.” It doesn’t care how much serotonin the gut had to produce internally to issue that “invoice.” The brain will produce its own serotonin from the signal of satiety but it won’t give you any more than you can from just feeling full.

            • By bitexploder 2026-03-1314:35

              It is a powerful neuron hormone. The mechanisms are different. It is still important to recognize the rather dramatic influence this has on the brain. That was what this article was about. This pathway can easily lead to depression and significant broad down regulation in the brain. Serotonin inside of the brain works very specifically. The vagus nerve signal has a very broad impact and should not be hand waved. If your vasovagal system has dysregulation it can lead to all sorts of specific brain internal negative outcomes systemically. I think your model of how this works is not very accurate regarding how broadly connected the vagal signaling pathway is and how that impacts how your brain functions.

      • By idiotsecant 2026-03-130:382 reply

        The blood brain barrier is a deny by default firewall. If there is no transporter configured for a particular molecule, it doesn't get through. There is no transporter for serotonin

        • By sooheon 2026-03-1313:421 reply

          Your nervous system extends over your entire body, the brain doesn't live in a firewalled jar.

          • By mortenjorck 2026-03-1316:01

            To extend the metaphor, the brain may have a robust firewall, but it also transacts with millions of clients over a separate (electric rather than chemical) network.

        • By bitexploder 2026-03-130:52

          See: vagal neurons and vagus nerve. Serotonin from gut directly impacts those. Your brain still directly interprets that signal from the vagus nerve and uses that to up and down regulate mood and arousal. Impact is still significant

    • By 1shooner 2026-03-1218:254 reply

      This seems to be a recent anti-science meme to dismiss studies that use mouse models. I'm sure there is an interesting line of discussion about the strengths and limits of those models, but that's probably a complex, nuanced thread to pull, not something you blow off with a hand-waving internet comment.

      • By inanutshellus 2026-03-1218:33

        To some degree the other posts are just pointing out the misleading "assumed protagonist" of the title (which doesn't mention mice) but I was surprised to see that the majority of posts boiled down to "eek! mice!"

      • By asdff 2026-03-130:56

        I wish I could filter the word mice or mouse out of hn comments because as you say every single one are low effort gotcha's that I will never get my time back from.

        It is like these armchair scientists don't understand that the actual scientists know the limits of the model system better than they do.

      • By MarkusQ 2026-03-1221:061 reply

        It's not anti-science, it's anti-science-journalism-hype.

        Science depends on accurately reporting facts, being clear about the limits of your findings, and seeking explanations that survive scrutiny. Science journalism has other priorities that are often in conflict with those of science.

        • By 1shooner 2026-03-1321:44

          In this case, it was in the headline of the article. I don't know how much clearer one would expect it to be.

      • By znpy 2026-03-1219:36

        I bet it started with people trying to 1-up other commenters via the usual “achtually…” and then proceeding with the “in mice” notice.

    • By 5o1ecist 2026-03-1312:56

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  • By mustaphah 2026-03-1218:473 reply

    Yeah, it's a mouse study, but there are tons of human studies backing the whole gut-brain connection. There are even a bunch of books on it [1][2].

    What's really cool is that the paper used low-dose capsaicin (just 5 μg/kg injected), and it completely restored hippocampal FOS activity and memory in older mice. Basically, that's the same stuff you get in cayenne pepper supplements - pretty easy to get your hands on.

    [1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28837738-the-mind-gut-co...

    [2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35210457-the-psychobioti...

    • By InkCanon 2026-03-130:172 reply

      I only have marginal knowledge about neuroscience, but one of my neuroscience professors in class would tell us

      "You can cure anything in mice."

      I don't know the mechanism why, but you can find tons of papers with incredibly strong results for curing of mitigating dementia, cognitive decline, addiction, etc in mice, but these almost never seen to work on people.

      • By nofriend 2026-03-130:23

        They're human specific ailments. We create a fake version of them in mice, then we fix the fake version. The basic problem with these issues is we don't understand the root cause. So we can replicate the symptoms in a mouse model then fix the symptoms, but that doesn't work in humans because the root cause is still there.

      • By mustaphah 2026-03-130:25

        I guess it's because most major disorders and diseases have so many pathways at play that figuring out which one's actually causing the problem at the individual level is just too tricky.

        The other thing concerns how potent the effect is to be therapeutic. In many cases, the effect is just marginal to be meaningful.

    • By jrapdx3 2026-03-1221:021 reply

      I've long regarded the great variety of chilis as its own distinct food group. But wonderful as they are for flavoring food, quite often in my home, I'm not sure how much of an effect orally consumed capsaicin has on memory functioning.

      Conceivably parenteral capsaicin has different effects on hippocampal integrity or physiology than achievable with ingestion. I'm not familiar enough with disposition of capsaicin in the gut to comment further. My question is whether capsaicin passes from gut into the circulation in any appreciable quantity. I suspect it doesn't but I couldn't say I know for sure. I'll have to add it to the already long list of things I need to look up.

      • By mustaphah 2026-03-1223:041 reply

        Chili could work [1], but not too much of it [2]

        [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27079706/

        [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31137805/

        • By ljf 2026-03-1315:51

          No 2 is a fascinating study! My mother was 'taking' (eating) large amounts of raw chilli as she found it a very efficient cure for her rheumatoid arthritis - she had brilliantly reduced joint pain. BUT after a few years it caused painful and disfiguring rosacea.

          She stopped the chilli and moved to acupuncture for the arthritis, which worked pretty much as well, but not something she can do herself at home for 'free'.

          Since she has v low BML, I'm now pleased to see she stopped eating too much chilli!

    • By Aurornis 2026-03-1223:501 reply

      > What's really cool is that the paper used low-dose capsaicin (just 5 μg/kg injected), and it completely restored hippocampal FOS activity and memory in older mice.

      There are countless papers published where simple ingredients produce miracles in mice. Most of them don’t replicate.

      If you look up most food ingredients you can find someone, somewhere claiming to have used it to produce amazing outcomes in mice. After you read a lot of those you learn not to take individual papers seriously if the claims seem too good to be true.

      • By mustaphah 2026-03-130:511 reply

        > After you read a lot of those you learn not to take individual papers seriously

        Can't disagree, but keep in mind that almost all meds are tested first in mice/animal models before human trials verify the effects.

        • By Aurornis 2026-03-1313:341 reply

          My comment had nothing to do with mice versus humans.

          It’s about singular papers with too good to be true results. You can find these in humans too.

          • By mustaphah 2026-03-1313:371 reply

            I guess "too good to be true" is not a decent argument to convince a rational mind

            • By Aurornis 2026-03-1314:061 reply

              The salient point of my comment is singular paper

              The rational mind should not be seeing singular papers and assuming they’re correct. There are a lot of incentives for researchers to publish amazing results that benefit their career. They find ways to publish these through small sample sizes, p-hacking, or worse like faking results.

              The amazing results usually disappear in larger studies by more rigorous researchers. There are so many papers showing amazing things in a handful of mice in a lab or even human volunteers that do not appear again in properly powered studies.

              • By mustaphah 2026-03-1314:151 reply

                That's a fair clarification.

                I never said we have sufficient evidence to act. But "too good to be true" + "singular paper" together can become an unfalsifiable dismissal - by that logic, every important result looks suspicious before it replicates. The interesting question is what priors should update our confidence here.

                Stanford/Arc Institute and published in Nature + mechanistic grounding + prior research on gut-brain axis gives me way more confidence than average, but you're right, that's not nearly enough for most, but quite sufficient for me, and surely others with informed priors or a strong motive.

                • By Aurornis 2026-03-1314:53

                  > by that logic, every important result looks suspicious before it replicates

                  Every important result should look suspicious before replication. This is the rational way to interpret early research.

                  You should not allow your mental probability distribution to be anchored around the first claim you see that is proposed as a paper. In the modern publishing environment, a heuristic of assuming singular results will not replicate would be accurate more often than assuming they’re true.

                  This isn’t intuitively obvious until you’ve read a lot of papers. It’s unfortunate but true.

                  Even some of the widely accepted findings like the benefits of fish oil supplementation are having a hard time replicating in large scale studies. Go back 10 years and it was almost universally accepted that those early fish oil studies must be true.

  • By iammjm 2026-03-1311:55

    I believe there is a lot of shame-induced ignorance around this whole subject. Culturally poopin' is in the similar category like sex or death, outlawed from most "civilized" debates. But consider how central digestion is to our existence: basically almost before everything else we must consume -> digest -> expel first. You are not getting that smart brain of yours without that poopy butthole to go along with it

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