This has pixels the size of my hand, and it fully covers my field of view. Not my cup of tea.
What I do recommend (having bought one) is the Kuycon G32p, 32 inches @ 6K. Incredible quality and unbelievable value for money (https://clickclack.io/products/in-stock-kuycon-g32p-6k-32-in...).
> This has pixels the size of my hand
This is 128 ppi, which would be considered "retina" at a viewing distance of 70cm (27in).
Are you really sitting 2 feet from a 52" monitor? I'd have to cutout a curve in the front of my desk to sit that close
I literally have this monitor already and these pixels are humongous. Even at 3 feet away. Also the viewing angle degradation is too much, so much so that it irritates to look at the edge of the screen from the center. A very poor monitor indeed.
Curves in the front of desks is a thing.
> This is 128 ppi, which would be considered "retina“
If by “retina” we mean “pleasantly sharp”, not by me. I’m never buying less than the 218 ppi of my Apple Studio Display unless I absolutely have to. I’m totally spoiled.
I think the point was that people care about ppd, not ppi. 218 ppi would be too low if the screen is 1 inch from your eye or too high if it’s 100 inches from your eye.
Retina probably means 60 ppd.
Sure, but I can’t see myself sitting significantly further away from any desktop monitor than I do now.
I have the Apple 6K 32” Pro Display XDR and a Kuycon 5K 27”. Both are great. Apple was $6,500 and the Chinese version was $400 on EBay plus the $100 stand. Kuycon has more types of input, and a remote. Frame and display quality are on par for a dev.
They aren't even close in comparison? Like 600 nits brightness vs 1000 (1600 peak) for one. Contrast ratios are very very different. It only supports HDR600. They are very different displays in person. Perhaps at low brightness on text they are similar, but outside of that they really aren't very similar.
$400 where? The cheapest I've seen the kuycon 5k is $800 before shipping, and the QA has been hit and miss with users having to pay to ship it back.
It's not to say it's a bad option, but it's definitely not $400 out the door.
Reviews are saying the Asus has an aggressively matte display, causing the text to look a little blurry.
If you just want 32 inches @ 6K there are cheaper options around, such as the ASUS ProArt PA32QCV: https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/pr... ASUS is a more well known brand. It doesn’t imitate the Apple aesthetic.
(It does seem like the resolution differs: 6016×3384 vs 6144×3456.)
I bought this right after it’s available, I like the screen but the Asus OSD is barely tolerable and I have to grow my patience because of it
Can't you avoid the OSD if you control it with DCC?
OSD ?
thanks (and i should have thought of that...mea culpa)
Amazing, checked just now and seems that these are now in stock in many places. When I checked last week, they weren't, seems like some stock got released for EU then.
New York isn’t in the EU…
I recently got this after getting three copies of the LG 32U990A, which had serious light banding and uniformity issues. Loving the Asus.
That has a lower resolution though. Not by much but it’s a weird panel.
Same resolution as Apple’s 6K panel.
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For context - this 51" monitor has 22% less pixels than the 32" Apple Pro Display XDR.
good deal considering it's much smaller and twice the price
Not really. The Dell is 6144x2560 @ 1x while the Apple is effectively 3008x1692. The Dell can fit much more content on the screen.
Yes really. A pixel is a pixel. This dell monitor has pixels the size of boulders. Apple Pro Display XDR has 4.6m more pixels in a significantly smaller area creating a much denser display.
Denser pixels are worth less because you can't see them; in this case 3x-4x less.
You CAN see then, you CANNOT distinguish them apart without a closer look.
It would be a really ineffective monitor if you couldn't see the pixels.
macOS can specify regions of the screen to be 1x. If I'm using Capture One or Lightroom, my photos are at normal resolution while the UI elements are "retina/2x".
So you can see more detail but you aren't fitting more photos on the screen.
You can configure macOS to scale everything more or less, just like you want it. Same for Windows and Linux. And you keep the crispness of the full pixel resolution for text and images.
But those are retina pixels right? Like what is the max resolution of that display?
Retina pixels what? Pixel is a pixel, density _of pixels_ is what you're looking for
"Retina" is Apple's marketing name for high PPI displays.
6016 x 3384.
Dell monitor is twice the surface area with 3/4 the pixels … or in reverse: Apple display is half the size with 30% more pixels.
(edit: corrected dell pixel %)
What is going on here? Why is everyone in this thread using 'pixels" to mean ppi? It seems unnecessarily confusing or even misleading. I mean blatantly a 6K monitor has more pixels than a 5K or 4K one, regardless of the pixel density.
Yeah, nobody’s saying a 5k monitor has more pixels than a 6k.
I think what people are trying to communicate, but struggling to, is that high pixel count on a huge display can be deceptive.
I think grandparent was trying to say “comparing a low-poi display to a high-ppi display is not a direct comparison.”
16:9 60Hz kinda sucks though :/
Yes I realize the Pro Display XDR has those same specs. 16:10 or 3:2 120Hz or 144Hz would be ideal to me.
You must have really tiny hands considering the pixels are smaller that .2mm by .2mm
Lg has a similar model: https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lg-ultrafineevo-32-6k-nano-i...
First time I hear about this Kuycon, the pricing seems phenomenal and the quality as well. I will probably buy one by the end of the week.
It's odd that we don't get to see a lot of high quality OEM monitors.
> the pricing seems phenomenal
I'm in Norway, and I wonder if I see different prices than people from elsewhere in the world? Here it says $1.7K, and I can get the LG UltraFine 6K 32" for $2K, with the benefit of being bought from a Norwegian retailer (think guarantees and shopping security).
To be clear; I have never tried either of these monitors, so I can't tell if either is any good. :D
Germany, also seeing $1699 on there...
Is there a significant benefit for programming in going from 4K to 6K on a 32" display? I'm currently on 27" 1440p and looking for more screen estate for my neovim setup.
If you make the fonts smaller, can you no longer read them because they are too small? Then you need a bigger monitor, not a higher resolution.
If you can no longer read them because they are too pixelated, you need a higher screen resolution.
My understanding is that HiDPI mode on Windows requires each app to specifically support it, no?
On macOS too. On both operation systems 99% apps do though. Maybe its 99.9% on macOS vs 99.8% on Windows. But I'm using HiDPI on both and it was a long time ago that I encountered an app that didn't support it.
Is this some kind of OEM Apple display? Or did they just put all that effort into machine out those spheres in the back of it so it looks like one?
On the official Kuycon site, it says "Since 2023, Kuycon has partnered exclusively with ClickClack.io to bring its innovative line of monitors to customers outside of China[...]". I'm seriously considering getting one of these.
i bought mine from there
Those look like the monitors used on the F1 movie, which is strange, considering it was an Apple production and they maybe should have used apple monitors for product placement . I guess it is a testimony about Kuycon from Apple.
You should look at pictures of Apple's Pro Display XDR. The Kuycon monitor is an obvious rip-off of that in terms of styling, especially the ventilation on the back.
LG has a 6K 32 inch also, although a few hundred dollars more.
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> pixels the size of my hand
Sometimes this is refreshing. (display joke there, heh)
this is a big monitor.
Many UIs don't scale particularly well with very high resolution. So you get UI elements with super-fine text or icons.
Some linux console fonts are almost unreadable with just 4k, though recent releases seem to be addressing this.
also old games.
for comparison, I think this is basically the dell 43" monitor with pixels on each side (16:9 -> 21:9)
the height of the panel is similar, the width is higher (plus curvature)
There's an awkward zone where scaling doesn't work well. But if you have a screen that can do nice high levels of detail, then you can run older UIs at exactly 2x and they will look just as good as they ever did. An Apple Pro display is a good fit here, offering 218 pixels per inch compared to a "traditional" 96.
Is this a grey box replica of the Mac 32in? Because I’d interested if it is.
I wish they had an ultra wide with the higher resolution.
this looks like a rip off of another monitor that I can't quite put my finger on...
And no extra charge to have an adjustable stand! How do they make money?
By having fewer pixels, lower quality screens? Crazy what you can do when you cut corners.
This screen reminds of when I did tech support in high school and I helped a guy who bragged about his computer monitor, it was a TV running at 720p (if not lower) and a massive screen. The windows start bar was hilariously large (as were all UI elements), I had to just smile and nod until I got out of there.
Sure, your screen may be bigger but it's blurry and everything is scaled way too large.
> By having fewer pixels
I thought samdixon was referencing the Apple Pro Display XDR? If so, Apple has fewer pixels.
Apple Pro XDR: 6016 x 3384
Kuycon G32P: 6144 x 3456
> everything is scaled way too large
The HiDPI/Retina bullshit is just bullshit. I've been running a 4K 43" 4:3 display at 100% scaling since 2018. It is neither blurry nor scaled too large. It can, however, comfortably fit 10 A4 pages simultaneously. Or 4 terminals + a browser + a PDF reader.
My arithmetic nodule is having a konniption fit. Does not compute. If this is 16:9 and you mistook your aspect ratio I can breathe again. √2:1 says 1.41:1 isn't 1.33:1
10 A4 pages do not fill a 4:3 or 3:4 aspect ratio box. They don't fill a 16:9 box either but it's more plausible, the wastage is different.
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My comment (or at least that quote) was specifically about someone using a 30"+ TV at 720p as their computer monitor.
No need to recoup R&D costs.
its probably a charity, no money there.
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I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing.
All of that cost less than this one monitor.
All the brand naming makes this read like something from American Psycho.
The brand names are there, I assume, to show that it's not some cheapskate setup jerry-rigged from salvaged parts. Because even then it's still less expensive that the giant Dell monitor.
I frankly don't understand the point of such monitors. If they are placed reasonably near, they don't fit human FOV well, and the periphery is seen distorted. If they are far enough away, the pixel pitch goes well past the angular resolution of the eye.
I got the 49" version of the dell Alienware display (basically this one size down with different branding and stand)... . From my perspective you're looking at it incorrectly, the point isn't to be able to look at everything at the same time, it's to be able to quickly glance from the one side to another.
Let's say I have an ide open, I will likely not look at the directory structure often, but I want an easy way to switch files - fantastic for having it available just by glancing over
Now you run tests, start the application etc. It also doesn't need to be in your view, all the time - but isn't it convenient to be able to just look where you know it's?
It's suboptimal for competitive gaming however, exactly for the reason you said. Scenic gaming on the other hand is improved by it, because the larger screen is more innersive
I used to be happy with virtual desktops. Then I switched to macOS. What a mess it is: from the irritating virtual desktop animations that delay you, to the annoying keyboard shortcuts that don’t work in full screen mode, I’ve decided to just move on to multiple monitors or maybe one big display.
And it used to be better -- you could use TotalSpaces which would make Spaces two-dimensional and let you turn off the animation. But they took that from us!
There is a way of using Stage Manager as though it was Spaces, with minimal animations, but it takes a lot of getting used to and it's still not great.
If your plan is to physically move your head to look at the peripheral anyway, then this is much cheaper to achieve by putting a second monitor alongside your primary monitor (I keep an older 2560x1440 in portrait alongside my main 4k display)
Scenic gaming seems pretty niche outside of dedicated flight/driving sim setups? And regular gaming often kind of sucks on ultrawides - way too few games have decent options to pull the HUD into the center region of the display
It's really not that complicated: do you prefer to work at a tiny desk or a huge desk?
Same with monitors.
Either you stack huge piles of papers and work through the piles (with everything in the way all the time) or you spread them out in front of you.
In case you don't get the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISYzA36-ZY
Gear fetishism is a serious disease, and the symptoms are obvious
It does read exactly like Bateman in my head, but didn't pin it down until you helped. Still, that Dell monitor is pretty crazy itself.
Paul Allen has this Dell monitor
Thank you. I did need a good chuckle to start the day right.
Perhaps, but I value this simple explanation of the setup because it serves as a "these parts work well for this purpose" testimony. I'm already familiar with Manfrotto quality but not in this use type. It's nice to have my horizons broadened.
Force of habit. The film industry values brand recognition of gear highly because reliability is important. There are a lot of cheaper equivalent parts which could be assumed which wouldnt accurately illustrate my point. I spent around $450 just on the hardware to mount the monitors and it is still cheaper than this dell monitor.
“We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don't concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy's name on my underwear.”
I'm seeing only manfrotto here
I get bonkers annoyed using just two monitors with macos or windows. multi monitor management... nothing behaves how i want it to, apps never open where they should etc etc. I havent tried it on desktop linux enough to know if it's any better - maybe at least id assume have the most configuration control on linux.
How do you do it? I always give up in frustration. 100% would keep the genelecs :)
I can only speak for the Cinnamon desktop environment on Linux Mint, but it’s very simple:
- Apps always launch on the monitor your mouse cursor is on
- Switching the focused window to the other monitor is Win+Shift+Arrow Keys
So if I clicked to open an app, it’s on the monitor I’m already looking at. If I used a keyboard shortcut, win+shift+arrow is super easy and simple.
The fact that it’s a stupid simple rule means I can get way better at just doing things by muscle memory… I don’t have to worry about being outsmarted by the window manager.
I use AeroSpace on mac os for tiling window management with spaces mapped per monitor so that eg space 1 is my top monitor woth my email and chat and space e is on the left for my obsidian, spaces asdfgh are my center monitor for code and terminals, and spaces zxcvb are the right monitor for browsers. I dont stick to this organization rigidly and when I'm doing odd tasks like cad or developing an app I break the patterns and put things on whatever monitor is convenient. I try to stick to a few common apps in the same spaces however.
For Mac I spent $0.99 a long time ago and bought Magnet on the App Store which lets me move windows and resize using hotkeys. For windows I aggressively use windows key + left/right to move the windows around, with 4 displays you just have to remember their ordering and eventually it becomes muscle memory to get it to snap where you want it. It mostly moves left to right, in my case.
On linux i3 I've bound my workspaces to default to a monitor and my apps to default to a respective workspace. Very very productive
On KDE and things like opening app on active monitor / desktop work fine. Only complaint is that on older versions, the taskbar on secondary monitors would sometimes disappear.
For reference I have 3 monitors (2x 4k, 1x 1080p) and am currently using Debian / Wayland and Ubuntu / X11.
It was a bug. I have 3 screens, and it would disappear on the third. An update, sometime around middle of last year fixed it, if my memory is correct.
But, I still have occasional problems with my monitors not waking up when I return to my desk. With 3, I've never had all 3 fail to wake, and a simple disable in the monitor settings, then choose "revert" usually brings them back.
I really miss kde generator of shift click in maximize window icon. It would expand a window just vertically.
Does windows has anything similar?
I generally don't close the applications i use on an ongoing basis :)
This way you only have to drag them to the monitor you want them on once on startup. Which on os x at least is not very often.
What fixed it for my was switching to Omarchy and using wayland (what it comes with). I don't bother very much with positioning or window resizing anymore. Give it a shot!
I'm using DisplayFusion on Windows and am very happy with it. Haven't found anything similar on Linux that works as well.
And you can get at least 10x 24" 1080p monitors for the price of a single 5k monitor.
Being on the leading edge of tech costs money.
That said, your mixmatched PPIs would drive me nuts.
The relative distance of the top 4k monitor actually makes it work pretty well. I use that for chats and email and dashboards that I need to keep an eye on.
That sounds like an ergonomics nightmare.
You should strive to sit with your head balanced on top of your neck, with your arms relaxed at your side and elbows at 90 degrees. wrist rest. good seating position. no donut cushion. etc
tilting your head back to look at a monitor above or to the side will use muscles to hold your body in place and misalign your spine/etc. leads to fatigue/stress/long-term issues
Not for nothing but 6K HDR @ 120Hz is likely a large part of the cost of this monitor.
I don't know if I'd put it on my desk, I got somewhat used to my setup - I had 2x4K 27" 144Hz monitors with very thin bezels (LG or Asus?) that I then traded in when I got a ProDisplay XDR. I do wish for higher refresh, and maybe more screen size.
I was going to comment about the price, but you kind of wrapped it up.
It's like the most popular form of innovation nowadays is just marginally nicer products with a massive premium on them - and I don't get how this is sustainable. Or maybe there's just way more people with massive amounts of disposable income than I realize...
There's no breakthrough of like "here's an amazing product, and by the way, it's for everyone".
This whole culture of scarcity, scalping, hoarding, FOMO, premium, it's so played out I'm literally done with it. This is paired with terrible customer support that takes customers for granted.
Very few companies seem to value their customers, and don't want to squeeze them. Tech, cars, consoles... You name it.
So this is my current stance: I'm out of the market for the foreseeable future, unless something breaks and I need to replace it. Even the "nice to have" stuff is down to almost zero.
I disagree with this take. Particularly because this isn't just a little more of this or that. It's a well-integrated set of features that should have already been on the market in some form, but wasn't really. And it's also a premium setup in terms of each feature individually. It really does feel like the whole is more than the sum of its parts in practical terms.
I don't feel FOMO. I'm thinking more "why did it take this long?"
what's the make/model for the monitors? my setup is getting long in the tooth.
Two PA27JCV and one LG ultrasharp (it was cheap because it was broken and I repaired it) and the 4k monitor is a samsung which I cant recommend. (Open box was cheap though)
I would love to see a photo of that setup.
Like that? https://gemini.google.com/share/3dbf617a1e07
Haha thats amazingly confusing when you look closely.
I'm using baby pin reciever plates on 4080 extrusion with m6 thumbscrews into drop in t nuts. There is only one c stand. The extrusion is actually two parts in a cross. The speakers are on the horizontal extrusion mounted on magic arms. My momitors are angled slightly upward and the bottom is a few inches lower than standard desk height.
Gemini with the Genelecs, nice.
I would pay the premium to have just this one monitor, although I find it too large.
And that’s fine for me: that different people want different setups. I’d never want a multi-monitor setup if I can avoid it, where others say it makes them more productive and whatnot.
Would love to see a picture of this setup and your thought on the brands / models you have. I’m in the market for new monitors / setup and yours sounds very much like something up my alley.
Not OP, but I have 2 8020D + a subwoofer.
If I had to do it all over again I would have 2 8030C and no subwoofer.
Why? Just out of curiosity. Is it that you don’t need that much low end for the media you’re usually playing through your monitors or do the 8030Cs have enough low end to eliminate the need for a separate woofer?
I’ve been debating getting genelecs for a few years now but the price jump from something like JBLs or Yamahas is so huge that I can’t justify it. At least not on my current budget.
I currently have the 8020D + 7040A. It's pretty much perfect sound with room correction applied, but the 7040A is kind of big and ugly. I'd be willing to give up some low-end to simplify the setup. Also the sub performs the crossover, so it's a lot of cords: 2 cords for DAC -> Sub, and 2 cords for sub -> L/R. And these cords have to be really long for when I raise my desk because the sub has to go on the floor.
I have the smallest of both: 8010As and a 7040A sub.
I'm sending almost nothing to the sub, and I'm guessing the 8030s would provide most of what I'm using the 7040 for without the inconvenience.
I'm in a small room and going for accuracy, so don't need much bass.
Also have 2 8020D's but I skimped on the subwoofer. Probably a bad idea, since they deemphasize the lows so much, but surprisingly I can crank up them up on my mixer's EQ to make up for it without losing clarity.
Yeah, they are really impressive for 4" drivers.
I sport two klipsch towers on either side of my desk and a small tube amp ^^'
They are the tiny 8010s. I don't produce much with this setup so accurate near field monitoring was all that I needed. I love how crystal clear the high end is with these. I bought them used and they were pretty beat up. I take them traveling so as an anti theft measure I painted them neon green and covered them in stickers to make them look cheap. They are mounted on magic arms to the aluminum extrusion. I also have some random Klipsch subwoofer. I send them a balanced output from a yamaha mixer at 192khz.
Oh, nice! Yea, was wondering what Genelecs, combined with your other gear, could be less than the price of this monitor. Makes sense that it’s the smaller ones!
Interesting, manfrotto's website has a cookie notice with two buttons: ALLOW ALL and ALLOW SELECTION.
However, there's no selections -- there's only a description of hundreds of cookies they store (e.g. 73 in Marketing section), but there's nothing to select, it's only text.
Sorry I don't have any without work stuff in the image. If I do post it one day I will reply to this.
I'm not sure what your point is. This monitor is less than 1/2 the price of Apple's Pro Display XDR with nano texture glass.
This monitor is not aimed at the same market segment as the pro display xdr which values high brightness, accurate color, and higher than normal contrast for hdr content mastering. In my opinion for productivity there are much cheaper setups which provide more ppi and more pixels per dollar.
1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently.
Part of it is also my fault as I thought a monitor would work with any computer.
2. That aside, what are you all using for window management on these large screens? I'm currently using Rectangle on Mac, but I was wondering if there's a better way.
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/1221mz2/dell_s3221qs_... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/n8ei34/dell_s3221qs_f...
I've gone the other direction - and after having struggled with other various monitors (the worst is easily the SAMSUNG 49" Odyssey Neo G9 G95NA - both cruddy capability (should have noted before buying it has no Power Delivery) as well as easily some of the blurriest text ever) - I've decided I will only ever buy Dell Monitors. Every one I've purchased (5 of them) in the last 15sh years has been a flawless performer - no hardware failures either.
Every monitor on every desk at work (around 3000 desks) is a Dell U3821DW - no broadscale systemic complaints that I've ever heard of.
I'm currently using my 4K 27" Dell P2715Q that I bought for $400 back in December 2017, and I've carried (physically) with me from office to office from Michigan to the Bay Area - thing runs for 10+ hours a day (minus weekend) for 8 years running. Eventually it's going to have to give in- and when it does - definitely going to buy another Dell (probably the U2725QE 27" 4K)
Yap I can confirm, Dell's P (professional) and U (ultra) lines are excellent and work flawlessly. The S (standard?) line not so much.
I'm kinda the same. I have a Dell monitor and a Gigabyte monitor side by side and my mac constantly loses the connection to the gigabyte monitor. At least once per day I have to unplug my video link to the gigabyte monitor to get the mac to rediscover it, this never happens with the dell one.
Counter-anecdata: I have 2 Dell U2720Q (Ultrasharp 27") bought in 2021 and they've been great.
That said, I've always stuck for Dell's upper-range Ultrasharp (U prefix in models) monitors, being slightly wary of their cheaper series which the S in your S3221QS implies.
I have a 13yr old 27" Ultrasharp still going well.
+1 to only buy Ultrasharp if buying from Dell. The others can be junk.
I'm using 2x Dell U3011s, one I purchased around ~2013 probably and the other I got used recently for $100. My only issue with them is that they have PWM coil whine that only goes away if I crank the brightness to ~90%, which seems to produce an immense amount of heat and probably power consumption. I'd love to find a viable alternative solution for this, because these are my favorite monitors for now.
The model appears to have been released 16 years ago.
I haven't yet found a monitor that makes sense to replace them with either.
I think there is a slightly newer version of these, but I have the same set up. I haven’t been able to find anything that has the vertical space that these monitors do. Even Ultra Wide monitors just aren’t tall enough. If I got this 52 inch behemoth that would help, but I would actually lose horizontal space.
> I think there is a slightly newer version of these, but I have the same set up
Ya, I've tried at least one of the newer versions and they were great too. 16:10 or almost anything else than 16:9 please
I’ve been a big fan of the big dell curved displays. The U4025QW has been a solid single monitor
Yes, the flickering problem is definitely an S-series issue.
I have the 27" from that series. In my experience, after I fixed the RGB issue, I also fixed the flickering issue. And to fix the RGB issue, I used BetterDisplay[1], controlled by a Hammerspoon[2] script[3] that calls its CLI on the appropriate display events.
The free version of BetterDisplay is sufficient, I really don't use any of its other features.
The flickering seems to be gamma related, and is triggered by Nightshift or Flux for me.
[1] https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay#readme
[2] https://www.hammerspoon.org/
[3] https://github.com/wlonkly/dotfiles/blob/master/home/.hammer...
For window management, Aerospace has been a game changer for me. I could never work with multiple monitors before that.
I bought a brand new Dell monitor through Amazon’s Dell Store (i.e. fulfilled by Dell themselves and shipped to me directly from their warehouse). The HDMI port broke a couple months later as it was sitting undisturbed on a desk, which was a common problem mentioned in its reviews. Dell flat out refused to replace it, saying that their database showed a different owner than me. Remember, they themselves shipped it straight to me. Amazon did right and let me return it even though it was already past the return period.
I will never, ever buy Dell hardware again. They’re dead to me. And when the IT department at a previous job reported to me, and a Dell rep cold called me to offer us a business plan, I politely explained why I’d rather gargle broken glass than risk my reputation on a vendor who doesn’t understand what a warranty means. That felt pretty good.
Are you referring to this store - https://www.amazon.com/stores/Dell/page/9B75DD0E-9F42-4B9B-A... ?
Not all of those have "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com" below the shipping timeframe line. It changes depending on inventory stock. The first monitor in the "plus" list says "Ships from and sold by computersale". Some third party sellers can register a device's sale with Dell.
The invoice on my order history says Dell was the seller, and I specifically remember that the label on the unopened box showed that it was shipped directly from Dell’s warehouse.
I went through this like 100 ways when it happened. I bought the monitor from Dell. They shipped it from their hands straight to mine. And when it broke, they refused to make good on it.
I had a strange problem with Dell P2720DC (27'' 2560x1440) - the whole outer edge of the screen would flicker if I used dark background with a lot of dim colours (like dark mode in IDE, or default Grafana theme). It wouldn't happen all the time, but it would happen on a weekly basis (I most often seen that on Sunday). I've RMA'd it, got another monitor, which also started showing the same problem. I gave it to someone who doesn't use dark mode - no issues.
So, I'm not getting another Dell until I'd be sure this issue won't happen again :)
Have you tried disabling GPU temporal dithering via BetterDisplay or StillColor? I had a similar problem with a different brand of monitor, and this has been the only reliable fix.
This helped with my S2722QC.
Also: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000331897/apple-m-p...
Thanks, StillColor seems to do the trick!
Spectacle for Mac and power toys for windows.
I’ve been using a single large monitor for a while and it’s been great with window managers. The biggest downside is when playing games full-screen.
One of my Dell's would randomly decide that the mini DP connection has no signal, and rebooting the MacBook Pro was the only way to restore it. HDMI would work just fine.
I bought a refurbished P24-something, basically the last 4K monitor I could find that was 24” or smaller — 4k @ 27+ looks bad for me. That Dell has been amazing. Just a counterpoint :)