I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

2025-03-1911:211009826www.theguardian.com

I was stuck in a freezing cell without explanation despite eventually having lawyers and media attention. Yet, compared with others, I was lucky

There was no explanation, no warning. One minute, I was in an immigration office talking to an officer about my work visa, which had been approved months before and allowed me, a Canadian, to work in the US. The next, I was told to put my hands against the wall, and patted down like a criminal before being sent to an Ice detention center without the chance to talk to a lawyer.

I grew up in Whitehorse, Yukon, a small town in the northernmost part of Canada. I always knew I wanted to do something bigger with my life. I left home early and moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, where I built a career spanning multiple industries – acting in film and television, owning bars and restaurants, flipping condos and managing Airbnbs.

In my 30s, I found my true passion working in the health and wellness industry. I was given the opportunity to help launch an American brand of health tonics called Holy! Water – a job that would involve moving to the US.

I was granted my trade Nafta work visa, which allows Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the US in specific professional occupations, on my second attempt. It goes without saying, then, that I have no criminal record. I also love the US and consider myself to be a kind, hard-working person.

I started working in California and travelled back and forth between Canada and the US multiple times without any complications – until one day, upon returning to the US, a border officer questioned me about my initial visa denial and subsequent visa approval. He asked why I had gone to the San Diego border the second time to apply. I explained that that was where my lawyer’s offices were, and that he had wanted to accompany me to ensure there were no issues.

After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. He revoked my visa, and told me I could still work for the company from Canada, but if I wanted to return to the US, I would need to reapply.

I was devastated; I had just started building a life in California. I stayed in Canada for the next few months, and was eventually offered a similar position with a different health and wellness brand.

I restarted the visa process and returned to the same immigration office at the San Diego border, since they had processed my visa before and I was familiar with it. Hours passed, with many confused opinions about my case. The officer I spoke to was kind but told me that, due to my previous issues, I needed to apply for my visa through the consulate. I told her I hadn’t been aware I needed to apply that way, but had no problem doing it.

Then she said something strange: “You didn’t do anything wrong. You are not in trouble, you are not a criminal.”

I remember thinking: Why would she say that? Of course I’m not a criminal!

She then told me they had to send me back to Canada. That didn’t concern me; I assumed I would simply book a flight home. But as I sat searching for flights, a man approached me.

“Come with me,” he said.

There was no explanation, no warning. He led me to a room, took my belongings from my hands and ordered me to put my hands against the wall. A woman immediately began patting me down. The commands came rapid-fire, one after another, too fast to process.

They took my shoes and pulled out my shoelaces.

“What are you doing? What is happening?” I asked.

“You are being detained.”

“I don’t understand. What does that mean? For how long?”

“I don’t know.”

That would be the response to nearly every question I would ask over the next two weeks: “I don’t know.”

They brought me downstairs for a series of interviews and medical questions, searched my bags and told me I had to get rid of half my belongings because I couldn’t take everything with me.

“Take everything with me where?” I asked.

A woman asked me for the name of someone they could contact on my behalf. In moments like this, you realize you don’t actually know anyone’s phone number anymore. By some miracle, I had recently memorized my best friend Britt’s number because I had been putting my grocery points on her account.

I gave them her phone number.

They handed me a mat and a folded-up sheet of aluminum foil.

“What is this?”

“Your blanket.”

“I don’t understand.”

I was taken to a tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights and a toilet. There were five other women lying on their mats with the aluminum sheets wrapped over them, looking like dead bodies. The guard locked the door behind me.

Man on one side of cyclone gate watches people sleeping on cement floor under bright lights.
A border patrol agent watches as girls from Central America sleep under thermal blankets at a detention facility in McAllen, Texas, on 8 September 2014. Photograph: John Moore/Getty Images

For two days, we remained in that cell, only leaving briefly for food. The lights never turned off, we never knew what time it was and no one answered our questions. No one in the cell spoke English, so I either tried to sleep or meditate to keep from having a breakdown. I didn’t trust the food, so I fasted, assuming I wouldn’t be there long.

On the third day, I was finally allowed to make a phone call. I called Britt and told her that I didn’t understand what was happening, that no one would tell me when I was going home, and that she was my only contact.

They gave me a stack of paperwork to sign and told me I was being given a five-year ban unless I applied for re-entry through the consulate. The officer also said it didn’t matter whether I signed the papers or not; it was happening regardless.

I was so delirious that I just signed. I told them I would pay for my flight home and asked when I could leave.

No answer.

Then they moved me to another cell – this time with no mat or blanket. I sat on the freezing cement floor for hours. That’s when I realized they were processing me into real jail: the Otay Mesa Detention Center.

Long low building seen at dusk
The Otay Mesa Detention Center in Otay Mesa, California, on 9 May 2020. Photograph: Sandy Huffaker/AFP/Getty Images

I was told to shower, given a jail uniform, fingerprinted and interviewed. I begged for information.

“How long will I be here?”

“I don’t know your case,” the man said. “Could be days. Could be weeks. But I’m telling you right now – you need to mentally prepare yourself for months.”

Months.

I felt like I was going to throw up.

I was taken to the nurse’s office for a medical check. She asked what had happened to me. She had never seen a Canadian there before. When I told her my story, she grabbed my hand and said: “Do you believe in God?”

I told her I had only recently found God, but that I now believed in God more than anything.

“I believe God brought you here for a reason,” she said. “I know it feels like your life is in a million pieces, but you will be OK. Through this, I think you are going to find a way to help others.”

At the time, I didn’t know what that meant. She asked if she could pray for me. I held her hands and wept.

I felt like I had been sent an angel.

I was then placed in a real jail unit: two levels of cells surrounding a common area, just like in the movies. I was put in a tiny cell alone with a bunk bed and a toilet.

The best part: there were blankets. After three days without one, I wrapped myself in mine and finally felt some comfort.

For the first day, I didn’t leave my cell. I continued fasting, terrified that the food might make me sick. The only available water came from the tap attached to the toilet in our cells or a sink in the common area, neither of which felt safe to drink.

Eventually, I forced myself to step out, meet the guards and learn the rules. One of them told me: “No fighting.”

“I’m a lover, not a fighter,” I joked. He laughed.

I asked if there had ever been a fight here.

“In this unit? No,” he said. “No one in this unit has a criminal record.”

That’s when I started meeting the other women.

That’s when I started hearing their stories.

Seen from behind, women in blue shirts on a row of bottom bunks.
Women sit on their beds in a privately run 1,000-bed detention center on 28 February 2006 in Otay Mesa, California. Photograph: Robert Nickelsberg/Getty Images

And that’s when I made a decision: I would never allow myself to feel sorry for my situation again. No matter how hard this was, I had to be grateful. Because every woman I met was in an even more difficult position than mine.

There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning.

If someone is a criminal, I agree they should be taken off the streets. But not one of these women had a criminal record. These women acknowledged that they shouldn’t have overstayed and took responsibility for their actions. But their frustration wasn’t about being held accountable; it was about the endless, bureaucratic limbo they had been trapped in.

The real issue was how long it took to get out of the system, with no clear answers, no timeline and no way to move forward. Once deported, many have no choice but to abandon everything they own because the cost of shipping their belongings back is too high.

I met a woman who had been on a road trip with her husband. She said they had 10-year work visas. While driving near the San Diego border, they mistakenly got into a lane leading to Mexico. They stopped and told the agent they didn’t have their passports on them, expecting to be redirected. Instead, they were detained. They are both pastors.

I met a family of three who had been living in the US for 11 years with work authorizations. They paid taxes and were waiting for their green cards. Every year, the mother had to undergo a background check, but this time, she was told to bring her whole family. When they arrived, they were taken into custody and told their status would now be processed from within the detention center.

Another woman from Canada had been living in the US with her husband who was detained after a traffic stop. She admitted she had overstayed her visa and accepted that she would be deported. But she had been stuck in the system for almost six weeks because she hadn’t had her passport. Who runs casual errands with their passport?

One woman had a 10-year visa. When it expired, she moved back to her home country, Venezuela. She admitted she had overstayed by one month before leaving. Later, she returned for a vacation and entered the US without issue. But when she took a domestic flight from Miami to Los Angeles, she was picked up by Ice and detained. She couldn’t be deported because Venezuela wasn’t accepting deportees. She didn’t know when she was getting out.

There was a girl from India who had overstayed her student visa for three days before heading back home. She then came back to the US on a new, valid visa to finish her master’s degree and was handed over to Ice due to the three days she had overstayed on her previous visa.

There were women who had been picked up off the street, from outside their workplaces, from their homes. All of these women told me that they had been detained for time spans ranging from a few weeks to 10 months. One woman’s daughter was outside the detention center protesting for her release.

That night, the pastor invited me to a service she was holding. A girl who spoke English translated for me as the women took turns sharing their prayers – prayers for their sick parents, for the children they hadn’t seen in weeks, for the loved ones they had been torn away from.

Then, unexpectedly, they asked if they could pray for me. I was new here, and they wanted to welcome me. They formed a circle around me, took my hands and prayed. I had never felt so much love, energy and compassion from a group of strangers in my life. Everyone was crying.

At 3am the next day, I was woken up in my cell.

“Pack your bag. You’re leaving.”

I jolted upright. “I get to go home?”

The officer shrugged. “I don’t know where you’re going.”

Of course. No one ever knew anything.

I grabbed my things and went downstairs, where 10 other women stood in silence, tears streaming down their faces. But these weren’t happy tears. That was the moment I learned the term “transferred”.

For many of these women, detention centers had become a twisted version of home. They had formed bonds, established routines and found slivers of comfort in the friendships they had built. Now, without warning, they were being torn apart and sent somewhere new. Watching them say goodbye, clinging to each other, was gut-wrenching.

I had no idea what was waiting for me next. In hindsight, that was probably for the best.

Our next stop was Arizona, the San Luis Regional Detention Center. The transfer process lasted 24 hours, a sleepless, grueling ordeal. This time, men were transported with us. Roughly 50 of us were crammed into a prison bus for the next five hours, packed together – women in the front, men in the back. We were bound in chains that wrapped tightly around our waists, with our cuffed hands secured to our bodies and shackles restraining our feet, forcing every movement into a slow, clinking struggle.

When we arrived at our next destination, we were forced to go through the entire intake process all over again, with medical exams, fingerprinting – and pregnancy tests; they lined us up in a filthy cell, squatting over a communal toilet, holding Dixie cups of urine while the nurse dropped pregnancy tests in each of our cups. It was disgusting.

We sat in freezing-cold jail cells for hours, waiting for everyone to be processed. Across the room, one of the women suddenly spotted her husband. They had both been detained and were now seeing each other for the first time in weeks.

The look on her face – pure love, relief and longing – was something I’ll never forget.

We were beyond exhausted. I felt like I was hallucinating.

The guard tossed us each a blanket: “Find a bed.”

There were no pillows. The room was ice cold, and one blanket wasn’t enough. Around me, women lay curled into themselves, heads covered, looking like a room full of corpses. This place made the last jail feel like the Four Seasons.

I kept telling myself: Do not let this break you.

Thirty of us shared one room. We were given one Styrofoam cup for water and one plastic spoon that we had to reuse for every meal. I eventually had to start trying to eat and, sure enough, I got sick. None of the uniforms fit, and everyone had men’s shoes on. The towels they gave us to shower were hand towels. They wouldn’t give us more blankets. The fluorescent lights shined on us 24/7.

Everything felt like it was meant to break you. Nothing was explained to us. I wasn’t given a phone call. We were locked in a room, no daylight, with no idea when we would get out.

I tried to stay calm as every fiber of my being raged towards panic mode. I didn’t know how I would tell Britt where I was. Then, as if sent from God, one of the women showed me a tablet attached to the wall where I could send emails. I only remembered my CEO’s email from memory. I typed out a message, praying he would see it.

He responded.

Through him, I was able to connect with Britt. She told me that they were working around the clock trying to get me out. But no one had any answers; the system made it next to impossible. I told her about the conditions in this new place, and that was when we decided to go to the media.

She started working with a reporter and asked whether I would be able to call her so she could loop him in. The international phone account that Britt had previously tried to set up for me wasn’t working, so one of the other women offered to let me use her phone account to make the call.

We were all in this together.

With nothing to do in my cell but talk, I made new friends – women who had risked everything for the chance at a better life for themselves and their families.

Through them, I learned the harsh reality of seeking asylum. Showing me their physical scars, they explained how they had paid smugglers anywhere from $20,000 to $60,000 to reach the US border, enduring brutal jungles and horrendous conditions.

One woman had been offered asylum in Mexico within two weeks but had been encouraged to keep going to the US. Now, she was stuck, living in a nightmare, separated from her young children for months. She sobbed, telling me how she felt like the worst mother in the world.

Many of these women were highly educated and spoke multiple languages. Yet, they had been advised to pretend they didn’t speak English because it would supposedly increase their chances of asylum.

Some believed they were being used as examples, as warnings to others not to try to come.

Women were starting to panic in this new facility, and knowing I was most likely the first person to get out, they wrote letters and messages for me to send to their families.

Two handwritten sheets of lined paper

Some of the letters given to Jasmine Mooney from the women she met during her time in Ice detention facilities. Photograph: Jasmine Mooney

It felt like we had all been kidnapped, thrown into some sort of sick psychological experiment meant to strip us of every ounce of strength and dignity.

We were from different countries, spoke different languages and practiced different religions. Yet, in this place, none of that mattered. Everyone took care of each other. Everyone shared food. Everyone held each other when someone broke down. Everyone fought to keep each other’s hope alive.

I got a message from Britt. My story had started to blow up in the media.

Almost immediately after, I was told I was being released.

My Ice agent, who had never spoken to me, told my lawyer I could have left sooner if I had signed a withdrawal form, and that they hadn’t known I would pay for my own flight home.

From the moment I arrived, I begged every officer I saw to let me pay for my own ticket home. Not a single one of them ever spoke to me about my case.

To put things into perspective: I had a Canadian passport, lawyers, resources, media attention, friends, family and even politicians advocating for me. Yet, I was still detained for nearly two weeks.

Imagine what this system is like for every other person in there.

A small group of us were transferred back to San Diego at 2am – one last road trip, once again shackled in chains. I was then taken to the airport, where two officers were waiting for me. The media was there, so the officers snuck me in through a side door, trying to avoid anyone seeing me in restraints. I was beyond grateful that, at the very least, I didn’t have to walk through the airport in chains.

To my surprise, the officers escorting me were incredibly kind, and even funny. It was the first time I had laughed in weeks.

I asked if I could put my shoelaces back on.

“Yes,” one of them said with a grin. “But you better not run.”

“Yeah,” the other added. “Or we’ll have to tackle you in the airport. That’ll really make the headlines.”

I laughed, then told them I had spent a lot of time observing the guards during my detention and I couldn’t believe how often I saw humans treating other humans with such disregard. “But don’t worry,” I joked. “You two get five stars.”

When I finally landed in Canada, my mom and two best friends were waiting for me. So was the media. I spoke to them briefly, numb and delusional from exhaustion.

It was surreal listening to my friends recount everything they had done to get me out: working with lawyers, reaching out to the media, making endless calls to detention centers, desperately trying to get through to Ice or anyone who could help. They said the entire system felt rigged, designed to make it nearly impossible for anyone to get out.

The reality became clear: Ice detention isn’t just a bureaucratic nightmare. It’s a business. These facilities are privately owned and run for profit.

Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts.

The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these companies have no incentive to release people quickly. What I had experienced was finally starting to make sense.

This is not just my story. It is the story of thousands and thousands of people still trapped in a system that profits from their suffering. I am writing in the hope that someone out there – someone with the power to change any of this – can help do something.

The strength I witnessed in those women, the love they gave despite their suffering, is what gives me faith. Faith that no matter how flawed the system, how cruel the circumstances, humanity will always shine through.

Even in the darkest places, within the most broken systems, humanity persists. Sometimes, it reveals itself in the smallest, most unexpected acts of kindness: a shared meal, a whispered prayer, a hand reaching out in the dark. We are defined by the love we extend, the courage we summon and the truths we are willing to tell.


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Comments

  • By anonshadow 2025-03-1917:006 reply

    This is the money shot : "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts.

    The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these companies have no incentive to release people quickly. What I had experienced was finally starting to make sense."

    • By wraaath 2025-03-1922:491 reply

      GEO Group also operates similar facilities in Australia, and is publicly traded in the US stock market under the symbol GEO. For the quarter ending 12/31/2024, they had top line revenue of 608M, but pre-tax income came in at 24M, and carrying debt of 2.3B. Somehow with such thin profit margins, their stock is trading at a 4B market capitalization and carrying a 128 P/E (by comparison, Google carries a 20 P/E, Meta 24), i.e. "richly overvalued". It would be a damned shame if Australia started re-evaluating those contracts. Oh - and some of the risk factors that GEO notes in their last 10-K annual filing:

      Efforts to reduce the U.S. federal deficit could adversely affect our liquidity, results of operations and financial condition.

      We partner with a limited number of governmental customers who account for a significant portion of our revenues. The loss of, or a significant decrease in revenues from, these customers could seriously harm our financial condition and results of operations.

      We are subject to the loss of our facility management contracts, due to terminations, non-renewals or competitive re-bids, which could adversely affect our results of operations and liquidity, including our ability to secure new facility management contracts from other government customers.

      and also - this amazing level of self-awareness:

      Adverse publicity may negatively impact our ability to retain existing contracts and obtain new contracts.

      • By TheNewsIsHere 2025-03-2412:471 reply

        10-Ks are one of the last places to find actual honesty in business. We partially have SOX to thank for that.

        • By wraaath 2025-03-2416:35

          You still do see plenty of trash in the 10-K's with all of the massaged messaging, but yeah.

    • By tim333 2025-03-1919:547 reply

      I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though. Why be so nasty? If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down?

      I'm curious as a non American why no one stops this. I mean presumably both political parties have not bothered. Do people in the US think it's ok? I think if that stuff happened in the UK there would be a lot of protests.

      • By casenmgreen 2025-03-1920:41

        > I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though.

        It's cheaper, would be my guess.

        These conditions though, it reads like the Standford experiment.

        This is properly tantamount to prisoner abuse.

      • By johnnyanmac 2025-03-2010:061 reply

        A lot of America (even parts of the left) still fall for the "hard on crime" narrative. They assume the sentences are just, and thus bad people deserve the worst. Even if our constitution has a clause agaisnt "cruel and unusual punishment".

        never-mind that we've had decades of initiatives using such prisons as a form of soft racism, something so longstanding that is publicly declassified information. And people still don't care.

        • By intended 2025-03-2017:20

          They would go further, and argue that it’s the people who argue against this narrative, are supporters of criminals.

          I.e. - It’s gone from “you are too soft on crime”, to “you are supporting criminals.”

      • By closewith 2025-03-2214:32

        > I think if that stuff happened in the UK there would be a lot of protests.

        A lot worse happened in UK prisons in Northern Ireland and people in Great Britain widely cheered it on. Target the right minorities and there'd be no shortage of supporters in Westminster.

      • By bigfatkitten 2025-03-221:31

        > If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down?

        On the contrary. In the US in particular, there is a large and outspoken segment of the voting base that love to see this sort of thing.

      • By femiagbabiaka 2025-03-1920:171 reply

        Simple. It doesn't cause (genuine) outrage and it doesn't get them shut down. AOC for example, protested these private prisons during Trump's first term and went silent on them when Biden didn't close them.

        • By runarberg 2025-03-202:512 reply

          Here is a tweet from soon after Biden took office in January 2021:

          > People must understand the depth of what’s happening here: the President of the United States has ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply.

          > There’s no reforming this rogue dept. It’s time for a new, just vision.

          https://x.com/AOC/status/1354211627940384768

          A month later she was criticizing DHS for still having Patriot act powers, and lumped ICE with the same criticism:

          > People have been writing about the deeply concerning issues with the structure of DHS for a long time.

          > This is from 3 years before I was even elected.

          > It’s not “fringe” to ask why FEMA & ICE are in the same Dept operation. Or question ICE’s operations

          https://x.com/AOC/status/1364619004921413633

          A day earlier she called for the abolition of ICE:

          > It’s only 2 mos into this admin & our fraught, unjust immigration system will not transform in that time.

          > That’s why bold reimagination is so impt.

          > DHS shouldn’t exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.

          This one is very apt given OP.

          https://x.com/AOC/status/1364349732760518657

          She continued, this on is in April 2021:

          > A lot of people who are just now suddenly horrified at the dehumanizing conditions at our border are the same folks who dehumanize immigrants + helped build these cages in the 1st place.

          > When we tried to stop this infrastructure over a year ago,we were overruled by BOTH parties.

          > Fact is a lot of the politicians crying right now don’t work to solve either.

          > They vote to grow ICE + CBP cages and they do everything to avoid addressing the root: US foreign policy and interventionism that destabilizes regions, the climate crisis, and unjust economic policy.

          https://x.com/AOC/status/1377652851191787532

          Your statement that Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez stopped protesting these private prisons while Biden was in office is simply factually wrong. And it was not hard to check it.

          • By freen 2025-03-2311:37

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          • By femiagbabiaka 2025-03-2515:03

            1) Tweets are not substantive action. I was actually involved in abolish ICE actions in real life and watched it die.

            2) Tweets are even less meaningful when in real life she supported at every step the people who were actively propping up ICE. Including Bernie, who just recently said Biden could have done more on illegal immigration. (Biden deported more people than Trump 1).

            AOC actually has a long track record of saying one thing and doing another, like the controversy over her “present” vote on weapons to Israel. This is the major reason why the Squad broke up. The most charitable interpretation of it is that she wants to gain cache within her party. But she doesn’t realize her party hates her.

            If you want to continue to champion someone like that, I have no problem with it, at the least she’s effective at bringing people to the left after they are inevitably disillusioned by something her or Bernie does.

      • By dfox 2025-03-1920:12

        Cost optimization.

      • By peterlada 2025-03-205:12

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    • By qwertox 2025-03-208:50

      CoreCivic & Co. then sounds like a good target for a DOGE analysis.

    • By johnnyanmac 2025-03-2010:02

      follow the money as always. Same reason why US has the highest incarceration date. Incentivize people to be put in cells, and they'll optimize for it.

      Hence why I'd rather revamp the incentives towards punishing recidivism and completely nailing petty imprisonments.

    • By bojangleslover 2025-03-1917:55

      Makes complete sense to me. That's how every other business works. Number of detainees is a mostly linear input (aside from the real estate) to opex.

  • By snapcaster 2025-03-1912:334 reply

    This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

    • By pjc50 2025-03-1912:421 reply

      It's Team Grade School Bullies all the way up, from the voters to the representatives. Plus decades of pro-cop propaganda, especially against following the rules.

    • By throwawaymaths 2025-03-1916:053 reply

      I'm about to travel to canada on work and as i understand it the last step in the visa is an interview at the port of entry where the border guard can decide if I get to stay or not.

      • By poulsbohemian 2025-03-1916:121 reply

        When I went through it years ago, it was mostly about making sure you had all your paperwork in order - had the company sponsoring you provided the relevant information regarding the role and why you were needed, did your resume and experience match at all with the work being performed, etc. Basically I showed up with a list of documents and a very nice border guard looked it over and said welcome to Canada. Each time I traveled up there for work, the border guards were polite and professional. Each time I traveled home, I got pulled aside for advanced screening like I was a drug mule. Just loved all the America trivia questions and deep dives into the history of where I live, just so they could feel good about their jobs.

        • By aendruk 2025-03-1916:471 reply

          > Each time I traveled up there for work, the border guards were polite and professional. Each time I traveled home, I got pulled aside […]

          Interesting, it was the opposite for me, US citizen with CA work permit circa 2016. CBP seemed to not care while CBSA was often irrationally aggressive and suspicious. The closest thing I got to an explanation once after being freed was “We just like you” with a grin.

          • By ethbr1 2025-03-1917:082 reply

            My experiences with CBSA were pretty bad too.

            I was grilled in Vancouver about whether the purpose of my visit was work or pleasure, after I helpfully told the officer that my dad was attending a work conference and I was traveling with him but sightseeing.

            "Well which one is it, work or pleasure?!"

            I don't know, dude. I just explained the situation: you're supposed to be the expert!

            • By manwe150 2025-03-1918:42

              What confuses me even more about that situation is that Canada seems to distinguish between business travel and work travel instead, where those two options seem to be mutually exclusive to each other (199b), and neither is for pleasure

              https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227...

            • By stubish 2025-03-1923:12

              I believe making you flustered is a deliberate part of the procedure. If you don't act 'normal flustered' or panic, it is a signal for more advanced screening.

      • By j_timberlake 2025-03-1918:53

        Imagine taking a >$500 flight to Japan or South Korea only to be told by the border guard there that you can't enter, even when no rules were broken. And then the flight home is even more expensive. It happens sometimes.

      • By wahnfrieden 2025-03-1917:38

        canada just revised the rules to allow border agents to revoke your visa / work permit, fyi. so look out. it might be better to go during "normal" hours and at major ports of entry to try to get a more senior officer.

    • By blindriver 2025-03-1912:496 reply

      Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you going. He answered “Canada” and they detained him and pulled apart his car looking for drugs. He was detained for hours until they let him go.

      • By nsavage 2025-03-1913:293 reply

        As a Canadian living near the border (as many Canadians are!), I would often drive into the US for shopping. There are a number of towns that seem dedicated to serving Canadians, like Watertown, NY. I've found that often the US border guards would be much nicer than the Canadian border guards, probably because the Canadians are the ones that need to deal with the customs rules (Canadians aren't trying to smuggle their new purchases back to the US without paying tax!).

        I haven't been on a shopping trip like that in a while though, and I find it hard to believe I'll ever do it again now. I feel bad for Watertown, but with the tariffs and the risk of detention, its not worth it.

        • By thelittlenag 2025-03-1916:151 reply

          That's an interesting anecdote. I grew up on a border town, but as a US Citizen often going up into Cananda. Without fail it was always the US border guards who were the jerks (I went to school with their kids!) and the Canadian guards who were gracious and courteous.

          Given that I've NEVER had what I would call a great interaction with a US border guard, it warms my heart to hear that at least they could be kind to some one ;-)

          • By freedomben 2025-03-1916:27

            This has been my experience as well (as a US citizen). I've crossed the US/Canadian border many times and the US guards are usually the jerks. I always dread re-entry into the US because of that.

        • By ilamont 2025-03-1916:15

          The Walmarts and gas stations near the Northern NY border used to have a lot of Ontario and Quebec plates. I've seen reports that February traffic across the bridges was down ~15% in February YoY.

        • By dowager_dan99 2025-03-1915:59

          don't forget a sub-70 cent dollar. Pretty rough to pay that sort of premium and THEN maybe GST and duty on your purchases. It's not the same as a generation ago when you had to go to the US to get their chocolate bars...

      • By pjc50 2025-03-1912:571 reply

        There's a wide spectrum between being aggressive about asking for your passport and detention for weeks. While it's a slippery slope the extent to which it happens, and the extent to which prejudice is involved, varies a lot.

        • By blindriver 2025-03-1913:092 reply

          Are you suggesting that Swiss border patrol would have been more forgiving if I were illegally entering their country?

          • By poulsbohemian 2025-03-1916:15

            I have the best story on this - they didn't believe I wasn't Swiss, because my name is clearly Swiss and I was speaking German. My (American) passport had been amended so it took an hour and them making some calls before they were convinced I wasn't some kind of spy. Love the idea of my ancestral home not believing I wasn't one of them, even if they were quite rude about it.

          • By wk_end 2025-03-1915:241 reply

            Well, she wasn't illegally entering the United States, so that's sort of moot.

            • By blindriver 2025-03-1915:533 reply

              She was. You didn't even do a modicum of research. She co-founded a hemp drink company in California and then self-assigned her own TN visa through the company she founded, which isn't allowed. Her visa was actually illegal and then she was found upon subsequent crossing. She tried to reapply and this time she was detained.

              • By wk_end 2025-03-1916:071 reply

                Sorry, I’m commenting on an article and don’t feel as though I should need more research than what’s written in it. Based on her account, that’s not really accurate, and I do actually trust her (and Guardian fact-checkers) more than your anonymous claims. Feel free to give sources.

                Anyway: it’s still moot. What she did, even based on your account, is not illegal.

                It’s not illegal to apply for TN, period. If the application is rejected, that doesn’t make the application retroactively illegal.

                It’s not even illegal for a Canadian to apply for a TN at the border crossing, have their application rejected, and keep driving right into the US. I know this because it happened to me. As Canadians don’t need work permits to enter the US, entering the country wasn’t the question - only working in it.

                Unless she’d previously been given paperwork that had banned her from entry to the US - and she hadn’t been - there was nothing illegal with reapplying. She was told to reapply.

                Whether she did anything “wrong” is debatable, but whether she did anything illegal isn’t.

                • By blindriver 2025-03-1916:141 reply

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                  • By seec 2025-03-2413:52

                    I was getting suspicious the more I read. When she said the guard though she was shady, I knew something definitely was up.

                    Guards/cops/whatever maybe be dumb sometime but they don't say this when everything is done correctly. If she had just made an honest mistake, she would have been told so and corrected. But clearly, she tried to do something that wasn't allowed or played with the lines on how things have to be done. Then she complains that she got detained for it. If you don't respect the rules, there are consequences, women tend to forget it because they get away with all kind of shit in today's society.

                    Also, The Guardian has a habit of obfuscating the truth (by omitting facts or orienting the narrative) to create outrage, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

              • By dowager_dan99 2025-03-1916:031 reply

                I need to determine if this is true. I had not heard of it before, and the idea she would qualify for a TN visa seemed a little thin, but the rules are so arbitrary and uneven (especially these days) who knows. Regardless this sounds like a nightmare, and to top it off is neither "DOGE-efficient" or increases US security. It's a least 4-combinations of lose-lose.

      • By ikerrin1 2025-03-1921:47

        Canadian here. I recall in 1991 being woken by Swiss border guards in a train carriage full of Germans and Italians. After inspecting their passports they shined the light in my face. They saw my maple leaf on my bag and asked “Est-tu Canadian” bleary eyed I replied “oui” and they said,”it’s fine, we don’t need to see your passport”. Of course 9 years later I was thrown off a train to Czechoslovakia” because they changed the visa requirements at the last minute and my “Let’s Go” guidebook was out of date.

        Oh being young, stupid and crossing boarders without a clue.

      • By ssijak 2025-03-1912:533 reply

        "Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport"

        What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.

        • By ethbr1 2025-03-1912:58

          It was hilarious seeing the difference between the French and Swiss border guards on train rides.

          French: laughing and talking, checking everyone's passports

          Swiss: eyes scanning the car, papers please

        • By dowager_dan99 2025-03-1916:071 reply

          Why do you need guard dogs to check a passport? Is it the most effective system to do sweep-checks in the middle of the night? Why not check as you're boarding or de-training? What happens if something is wrong or not aligned? Is a stressful situation the best way to conduct routine processes for anybody?

          HOW shit goes down is really important. When systems reduce people to cogs in a machine they lose empathy and personal responsibility. This is why we end up with guards who know nothing, treat people like cattle, and are "just doing their job". It does not lead to good results.

        • By blindriver 2025-03-1912:573 reply

          Nothing wrong. The previous poster claimed that the US Border patrol was excessively scary but my point is this happens everywhere around the world.

          • By freehorse 2025-03-1913:111 reply

            The part OP is scared of and points to is some border guard revoking your visa, which probably implies you losing your job and having to leave the country you live in. This is scary because it is a very big, bad outcome to be totally in the authority of a random border guard to decide. Waking out by guards and dogs barking on a train is scary in its own right the moment it happens, but we are talking about totally different things whose only intersection is "border guards" and the emotional category of "scared".

            • By blindriver 2025-03-1913:192 reply

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              • By freehorse 2025-03-1913:46

                I did not say it cannot be revoked or it does not happen anywhere else, I said it is scary for completely different reasons than waking up in a train to a border guard checking your passport. Moreover, both can in principle happen anywhere, but the extent and context of them actually happening also matters.

              • By snapcaster 2025-03-1914:271 reply

                It's not nonsense, people are following all the rules and then having some thug with no ability or willingness to understand the situation revoke their visa. This can and will ruin lives I don't see how you're not seeing the problem here

                • By blindriver 2025-03-1914:432 reply

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                  • By TheOtherHobbes 2025-03-1915:022 reply

                    Which other countries force visitors through full immigration processing even if they're only in transit?

                    • By jimmydorry 2025-03-1915:48

                      Canada is at the top of my mind. You need to get a visa and go through the "full immigration processing" even if you are only transiting through and not leaving the airport.

                    • By blindriver 2025-03-1915:39

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                  • By freehorse 2025-03-1915:371 reply

                    It is you that actually has to answer on which rules were broken and which countries do the same. Tbf asking questions to be answered by non-examples is disingenuous. If your argument (2) is that others do it, then you should provide concrete examples similar to the original article. If your argument (1) is that they did not follow some rules, you should either provide specific rules that the author did not follow, or at very least plausible reasons for why they are lying in the article about following all the rules.

                    • By blindriver 2025-03-1916:014 reply

                      She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa.

                      1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian.

                      "Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California."

                      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act...

                      2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which is illegal.

                      "I was granted my trade Nafta work visa, which allows Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the US in specific professional occupations, on my second attempt."

                      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...

                      3) She self-sponsored her own TN visa through her company that she co-founded and this is illegal.

                      Visa Sponsorship Required

                      Contrary to popular belief, the TN visa classification does require an employer to “sponsor” an individual for TN visa work status.

                      The TN visa classification, unlike e.g. the E-2 visa, does not permit self-sponsorship.

                      https://www.bdzlaw.com/nafta-tn-blog/tn-visa-employer-obliga...

                      4) She was trying to enter the US illegally with an illegal work visa and even though the first TN was granted, she was likely detained because of the illegal nature of her TN visa application and the multiple attempts she made.

                      Everything ICE and CBP did was lawful.

                      • By ethbr1 2025-03-1917:201 reply

                        Did you look up Section 214.6(b) [0] before you posted?

                        Curious how you determined

                        >> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner.

                        Do you have a link to the ownership structure of Holy! Water?

                        [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2012-title8-vol1/pdf...

                          • By ethbr1 2025-03-2015:301 reply

                            I must have missed the ownership table in that video.

                            How much of the company does she own?

                            • By blindriver 2025-03-2017:521 reply

                              She has publicly stated she is a cofounder of the company. In order to qualify for the TN visa there has to be a legitimate employer-employee relationship, and as cofounder, that makes that impossible. At the very least this makes her subject to detainment for possible immigration fraud.

                              • By dragonwriter 2025-03-2017:561 reply

                                Founders/cofounders are generally legally and legitimately employees of the firms they were involved in founding.

                                Yes, if she was the sole or controlling owner, this would be an issue. But “cofounder” and “sole owner” are... not the same thing.

                                • By blindriver 2025-03-2023:02

                                  This is well established. You can argue all you want but you're wrong.

                      • By DangitBobby 2025-03-2213:50

                        Was she accused of these things by ICE? Was she told which laws she allegedly broke? Was she being detained ahead of a trial? I don't understand how even allegedly illegal activity results in her indefinite detention without anyone telling her anything.

                      • By g8oz 2025-03-1918:181 reply

                        >>Everything ICE and CBP did was lawful.

                        That may be true but it's a pretty much a low bar....why the detention for 2 weeks? Why was she not allowed to fly home? Is cruelty the point?

                        • By wraaath 2025-03-1921:55

                          Along with all of these Musk/Trump regime's antics, the cruelty is merely a feature, not a bug.

                      • By tschwimmer 2025-03-203:411 reply

                        TN self sponsorship is not allowed. However, it's not immediately clear to me that she would meet the standard of self-sponsorship as laid out in the law:

                        >> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner. [0]

                        I did quite a bit of digging to see if I could find corporate entity filings that might indicate if she is a sole or controlling shareholder. My initial findings suggest that she's not, but with low confidence.

                        Her product's site lists a mailing address in Illinois. I noticed the first line was "My Crew Doses"[1] (side note: lol - I guess this is a pun and a double entendre for "microdoses" but also "my friends dose"). I checked the Illinois register of corporations for that entity but came up short. I noticed the email listed on the contact page was "jeremy@enjoyholywater" and searched for 'Jeremy Holy Water' and came up with this guy [2] who lists himself as "Chief Scientific Officer" and a Co-founder of Holy! Water. I noticed he's in Colorado and checked the Colorado corporate register and bingo, came up with this: The corporate entity for My Crew Doses[3]. Not much info there but it lists the home registration of the entity as Wyoming. Going to the Wyoming register, we find the listing: [4]. That lists "Brian Mccaslin" as the sole corporate officer (President) with an @enjoyholywater.com email address. Cross-referencing his LinkedIn, it seems to be this guy: [5]. He also seems to go by BJ.

                        Now, assuming that this is the corporate entity for Holy! Water, I find it highly doubtful that the subject of the article is a controlling shareholder. We don't know what the ownership breakdown is but the fact that she isn't even listed as a corporate officer or a director is to me a strong indication that she isn't a majority shareholder. My hunch is that she in fact would be eligible (or at least not disqualified under this rule) for a TN visa.

                        [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2012-title8-vol1/pdf... [1]https://enjoyholywater.com/policies/contact-information [2] https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremywidmann/ [3] https://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityDetail.do?quit... [4] https://wyobiz.wyo.gov/business/FilingDetails.aspx?eFNum=035... [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjmccaslin/

                        • By blindriver 2025-03-204:01

                          TN visa requires a legitimate employer-employee relationship. If she is a co-founder of the company, which she has advertised herself as being, then the TN visa is illegal. Add on the fact she tried 3 times in various borders is more than enough evidence to detain her for immigration fraud.

                          Do I think it's right? No.

                          But is it lawful? 100% yes. I've seen draconian behavior at the border so I'm completely familiar with how things are so I'm not surprised.

          • By Mashimo 2025-03-1913:20

            They detained her for 2 weeks, while the lights where always on. I think that is a bit more then aggressively asking for papers.

          • By wezdog1 2025-03-1922:17

            Even if that were true it doesn't justify it.

      • By yerushalayim 2025-03-234:37

        Scary can be an effective deterrent against unsavory adversaries.

      • By seec 2025-03-2413:43

        Of course, it's kind of the point of having borders and control, if they let anyone in without verifying, it's not even worth having a border.

        Going from France to UK is like that, and before Shenzen, it was like that from EU country to EU country. When I was young, we had to wait for 2 hours with my parents while they checked everything was in order for a Spain border crossing (we were in a big RV so it makes sense).

        People on HN have very soft views of the world, being too idealistic libertarian or some sort of socialist derived ideology. Most people may not be criminal but you have to process everyone crossing the border as if because otherwise it's pointless and you will never catch the criminals...

    • By bergie 2025-03-1921:28

      The only border experience I've ever had that was worse than US was Canada. And I've traveled quite extensively.

  • By BizarreByte 2025-03-1912:432 reply

    The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point.

    For the foreseeable future I will not be travelling to the US for any reason. Canada is safe and there is nothing in the US worth risking my freedom for. I will remain here and I will continue to avoid travel to America as well as spending money on American goods/services.

    • By transcriptase 2025-03-1912:5610 reply

      The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out.

      Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news because she’s a pretty white woman.

      • By BizarreByte 2025-03-1913:162 reply

        Again I do not care. The US has done more than enough to instill fear in Canadians like me.

        Would you travel to a country where its leader is constantly making threats against your country, some as serious as repeatedly calling for your annexation? The current US administration has made it very clear how it feels about me and my countrymen.

        I don't consider the US safe and I do not need someone to americansplain to me. You aren't exceptional, you're a threat.

        • By transcriptase 2025-03-1913:263 reply

          I am Canadian. I’ve been to the U.S. a hundred times and nothing has really changed to make me blink at continuing to go. I have friends and family who work and vacation there, and it’s the same for them as it’s always been.

          The Canadian media and Canadian businesses have been drumming up fear and patriotic rhetoric to drive domestic industries. That’s great - the last 10 years of “Canada is a post-national state with no culture or identity” narrative that Trudeau championed wasn’t doing us any favours anyway.

          Trump may be a buffoon and what he’s doing is clearly not acceptable with respect to Canada, but to fear visiting or considering the U.S. unsafe when it’s objectively far safer than visiting any all-inclusive hotspot in the Caribbean that Canadians are still flocking to like they do every winter is, well, removed from reality.

          • By jszymborski 2025-03-1920:121 reply

            > nothing has really changed to make me blink

            Then you perhaps aren't looking closely. The US is undergoing one of the fastest democratic backslides (democratic sinkhole?) the world has yet to see [0], deportations and detentions are happening with zero regard to the rule of law [1], and our _sovereignty_ is under attack daily.

            If that doesn't make you blink, like most Canadians have [2], then perhaps nothing would.

            [0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.74863...

            [1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin-ignores-judges-order-b...

            [2] https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/03/18/ctv-national-news-ho...

            • By account42 2025-03-2010:27

              You might want to try getting out of your doom news bubble.

          • By BizarreByte 2025-03-1913:35

            > I’ve been to the U.S. a hundred times and nothing has really changed to make me blink at continuing to go.

            Let's hope you never get unlucky, it only takes one border agent having a bad day after all. I've been to the US many, many times and as I said I no longer consider it safe, but we all have different risk tolerance levels.

            > when it’s objectively far safer than visiting any all-inclusive hotspot in the Caribbean

            I don't visit those places either.

            Cry to someone else about how it's all media based fear while ignoring the very real changes in attitudes, policy, and atmosphere, but I personally see no reason to take the risk when I could...just stay in Canada and be safe.

          • By metabagel 2025-03-1915:491 reply

            Dude, if you have a tattoo that looks questionable, you literally could be deported to a concentration camp in El Salvador. Granted, maybe you are white, and that might be the one thing which saves you.

            • By wahnfrieden 2025-03-1917:42

              Reportedly even having an LGBT tattoo was sufficient to be marked as criminal and sent to the El Salvador concentration camp

        • By somedude895 2025-03-1916:461 reply

          You're saying that you're not actually interested in discussing the post you're commenting on, you just want to use the comment section to rant. Got it.

          • By jszymborski 2025-03-1920:061 reply

            No, they are saying that the minutiae doesn't impact their desire to not visit, as simply the threat of arbitrary incarceration is sufficient. It's in fact a sentiment shared by most Canadians if the sharp decrease of Canadian visits to the US approaching pandemic levels is anything to go by.

            • By apwell23 2025-03-1922:21

              its not up to you to decide what rules are "minutiae".

              Thats the attitude of drivers towards laws on streets of bangalore.

      • By SpicyLemonZest 2025-03-1916:241 reply

        It's international news because she was detained for 2 weeks with no explanation. If they had simply booted her back across the border - which I thought was the default in cases like this, where someone's applying in an orderly manner at a port of entry - few people would have cared.

        • By hattmall 2025-03-1918:211 reply

          >If they had simply booted her back across the border

          They can't. And this is entirely her fault for trying to enter through Mexico. Telling them she will return to Canada isn't helpful because what are they supposed to do? Tell her ok, go get an Uber to the Airport and just let her go? Mexico would not issue her a VISA either so her only option is US or Mexican Detention. When the agent said "You aren't a criminal" is when she saw that Mexico had denied her re-entry and she was flagged for detention.

          Now, I mean, personally I think it would be fine to just let her go because who really cares, but the point of rules/laws/procedures is for them to be followed.

          Why did she go to Mexico first? Because she was denied entry in Canada and thought there would be less scrutiny at the Southern Border for Canadians. She was correct, because it worked the first time when she would have likely been denied at the Canadian border for her second crossing, but her initial denial flagged her.

          I feel for her, and the situation sucks, but she 100% knows she's trying to game the system, and that's not even bringing up the issues of her self-sponsored TN visa which is dubious.

          • By SpicyLemonZest 2025-03-1918:341 reply

            Is it true that Mexico denied her re-entry? The source article doesn't say anything about that, and I'm not sure why it would happen - Canadian nationals generally have visa-free entry for short trips to Mexico.

            • By hattmall 2025-03-1919:442 reply

              Yes, the agent saying "We have to send you back to Canada" is because she wasn't allowed in Mexico. By default her tourist card would have only covered entry from from Canada. The first CBP agent almost certainly attempted to get her back into Mexico which is why it took "hours." If she already had a valid VISA for Mexico then the default would be to return her. The article doesn't even really make it clear that she flew to Mexico first and then tried to enter the US. To the uninformed it would seem she may have flown into San Diego or something. She wouldn't be able to return to Mexico on an asylum claim either of course.

              • By footy 2025-03-1920:331 reply

                Canadians don't need a visa to travel to Mexico though [1], assuming they won't be doing any work or studying. Going to the airport to go back to Canada is not work.

                [1] https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/mexico

                • By hattmall 2025-03-2014:20

                  Yes, but if she HAD a VISA she would have been allowed to return to Mexico. She entered Mexico with a Temporary Tourist Card for entry from Canada to exit through the US with specified dates or less than 72 hours. That card became invalid when she left Mexico. The border agents most certainly tried to get her back into Mexico, but "denied entry into the US" is going to cause a manual administrative review in Mexico and that appears to have been denied. The only thing different under Biden / Obama would have been that she may have been processed faster because their was less backlog.

                  She gambled on trying to to game the immigration system and lost. It sucks but 12 days in custody isn't world ending. The most amazing part to me is people with no experience with "the system" find themselves incarcerated and think not eating sounds like a good idea.

              • By apwell23 2025-03-1922:27

                Yep this person clearly tried to manipulate the system and had the gall to admit that in public because she knew some many ppl wouldn't care and would support her regardless. this comment thread is proof of that.

      • By causal 2025-03-1915:172 reply

        Disingenuous take, did you even read the article?

        1) She was not detained in connection with any crime whatsoever. At no point was her company's use of THC stated as a reason for detainment.

        2) You have invented the idea that her second job was fake. If it were, then fraud could have been a crime and reason for detainment- but again, the article makes it clear no crime was charged or cited.

        3) You are right that plenty of non-white people are also going through this. I wish that was also enough to motivate people to care.

        The point is that removing due process for anyone is a threat to everyone. It could be you next. You might think, "Not if I'm a citizen and not a criminal" - but the whole point of due process is getting the opportunity to prove that you are in fact a citizen and not a criminal. That right is eroding.

        • By apwell23 2025-03-1915:574 reply

            After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. 
          
          
          i don't know what hemp is or how is related to THC.

          • By projectazorian 2025-03-1916:47

            Hemp is a lower THC variant of cannabis that has a variety of non-psychoactive uses. It was legalized in the US in 2018.

          • By beart 2025-03-1916:32

            Hemp is a type of cannabis. Historically in the US, it contained extremely small amounts of THC. With the legalization/decriminalization of THC across many states, I don't know if that's still true.

          • By zabzonk 2025-03-1917:28

            Hemp and cannabis are both varieties of the plant Cannabis sativa. Hemp contains less THC, and is used for things like making rope.

          • By JKCalhoun 2025-03-1916:211 reply

            Hemp is used to make rope.

      • By mahkeiro 2025-03-1917:50

        Yes because more cases are happening everyday: https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/03/19/etat...

      • By tiniuclx 2025-03-1913:431 reply

        What about the new job offer makes you think it is fake?

        • By transcriptase 2025-03-1913:552 reply

          You run a company in LA. Your visa is revoked. You show up at a different border shortly after with a novel job offer. Is it a genuine job offer or are you going back to run your company?

          • By jmb99 2025-03-1916:011 reply

            If that is all the evidence presented, then under the wild new concept of “innocent until proven guilty,” yes it is.

            • By troad 2025-03-202:462 reply

              That's never been the standard at the border.

              The starting assumption when crossing any[0] international border is that you don't have a right to enter the country, until you prove otherwise.

              People from wealthy Western countries are generally used to just waving their passports and passing through, but that is not nor has it ever been some kind of automatic right. People are questioned and denied entry all the time, should they fail to satisfy the border official of their eligibility for entry under the exact terms of their visa (or the relevant visa waiver program).

              I'm very sympathetic to the idea that border officials should have less discretion to deny people entry without very solid reasons, but if you start talking about 'innocent until proven guilty' at a border today, you're not going to have a good time.

              [0] International agreements can of course modify this default assumption, e.g. Schengen.

              • By apwell23 2025-03-2010:37

                ppl here are so freaking annoying and ignorant about how immigration works in any country.

                you are right, for immigration its your responsibility to prove that you are not coming in to violate terms of entry. Onus is not them to prove that you are coming to work on tourist visa.

              • By yencabulator 2025-03-2116:45

                She expected to buy a return flight back to Canada, but was instead imprisoned.

          • By slekker 2025-03-1915:481 reply

            Can you share the part of the article where this is mentioned or a source?

            • By apwell23 2025-03-1919:28

              "stayed in Canada for the next few months, and was eventually offered a similar position with a different health and wellness brand."

              When i google "holy water" first few links for me are some sort of THC infused liquid. But i think this person was working for one without thc?

      • By foogazi 2025-03-2215:20

        > She was treated like anyone else would

        How is it OK to treat everyone like that ?

      • By seec 2025-03-2413:58

        Exactly. From her own story you can also infer that pretty much everyone who was detained with her was in fact illegal. Nobody cares about them because they don't have the reach of this white woman; not that anyone would care, because they can't make up a bullshit story to pretend that they got unfairly detained.

        It may not seem right, but enforcing laws is kind of the point of having borders and cops and things like that. I'm amazed how many people are complaining.

        This woman is clearly shady and got what she deserved and that's that.

      • By diebeforei485 2025-03-1920:211 reply

        Hemp is not THC. And hemp was legalized in 2019 federally.

        • By apwell23 2025-03-1922:28

          only if thc content is below a certain %

      • By jmpz 2025-03-1914:38

        Source?

    • By HideousKojima 2025-03-1916:03

      >The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point.

      "I don't know Homer Simpson. I never met Homer Simpson or had any contact with him, but-- I'm sorry. I-- I can't go on."

      "That's okay. Your tears say more than real evidence ever could."

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